[Enchante]

"“I have been to enough college campuses to know if you are 30 or younger this climate issue is not a debate. It’s a value"

Wow, that's so insightful, Lindsey --- if enough campus socialists declare something a "value" then you fall in line...... what a pitiful POS you are, Lindsey Graham

as for "recycling" I love all the types of recycling that use just as much or more energy and resources as the "raw" material equivalents..... recycling only makes sense if it is a net benefit, and where it requires public subsidies to work it is not worth it

[Still Thinking]

Exactly. I love how when a municipality starts a program to collect recyclables along with the regular trash, people EXPECT to pay more, and the municipalities EXPECT them to expect it! If it were worth doing, the value of the recycled goods would pay for the program.

Now, there evidently IS some value there, because after charging you for the privilege, if you don't throw away enough recyclables, the city then complains that you're costing them money!!! So they want to give you the costs, and keep the proceeds for themselves! No wonder the cost benefit analysis can't fail. Different parties are getting the costs and the benefits. Full steam ahead!