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ATF seizes 30 toy guns, infuriating local business owner
Koin Local 6 ^ | 2/26/2010 | Alexis Del Cid

Posted on 02/28/2010 5:56:07 AM PST by Harrius Magnus

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To: Harrius Magnus; All

Although we are in general agreement regarding the BATFE, there MAY be further considerations:

The store owner in question was a guest on a local radio talk show. It SOUNDED as if he said that the “lower receiver” of this replica was nearly an exact copy of an M16/m4 “lower receiver;” except for one pin that needed to be drilled in and added. It SOUNDED as if this “lower receiver” could be used relatively easily, to make an AR15 into “full auto.”

This may be true, and may be just my imagination.

DG


81 posted on 02/28/2010 8:49:18 AM PST by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Harrius Magnus
Once they "take care" of Airsoft, these'll be next:


82 posted on 02/28/2010 9:03:17 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Crenshaw is a first class ignoramus.


83 posted on 02/28/2010 9:34:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DoorGunner

Some people trick out real auto weapons to look cooler by fitting the guts inside toys. This doesn’t mean that toys are any more contraband than wallets are (remember the tragic case of Amadou Diallo?).


84 posted on 02/28/2010 9:37:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Harrius Magnus
"ATF Wants American Citizens Naked Yellow!" Ping!
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85 posted on 02/28/2010 9:40:58 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I agree. We have to get rid of this government before it gets rid of us.


86 posted on 02/28/2010 9:50:15 AM PST by Diggity
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To: Blood of Tyrants

These are made of metal. Probably zinc castings.

Still like to see one fire a live round, or even a blank...from a distance of course.
Jack


87 posted on 02/28/2010 10:04:46 AM PST by btcusn
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To: Harrius Magnus

Obviously we have too may ATF agents with nothing useful to do. Fire 20% of these idiots. ATF does have a useful mission and should stick to it


88 posted on 02/28/2010 10:05:36 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: dennisw

“It was something Irwin Mann said this morning. I had a lot on my mind and it didn’t register. Now it doesn’t make any sense. I’m sure I heard him correctly, though; his accent’s not that heavy. It was when I asked him if he really did have business to attend to in Missouri.”

“What did he say?”

“He said yes. He said he had to go feed his hogs.”


89 posted on 02/28/2010 10:14:38 AM PST by Harrius Magnus (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Government and government unions are gang raping America.


90 posted on 02/28/2010 10:16:21 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Harrius Magnus

From one of my favorite novels.


91 posted on 02/28/2010 10:33:41 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I don’t like the ATF seizing toys, but how the heck do 30 toy guns wind up costing $12,000?! That’s $400 per toy gun.

I'll bet folks don't buy 'em like they used to when we were kids. Probably lots of rules and liability regarding their use and sale, too.

92 posted on 02/28/2010 11:03:58 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Always Right

Is it your business or mine WHAT someone pays for a bb gun? For sure it’s not, nor is it the BATFag’s business.


93 posted on 02/28/2010 11:42:18 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: DoorGunner

Exactly why should that make a difference? The toys in question are perfectly legal toys which are to be sold for that purpose... a legal one, BTW.

When will the BATFags confiscate a shipment of writing pens, or word processors or PDA’s because they “could” be used to write obscene words, kiddie porn or words advocating the violent overthrow of the BATF... in the hands of the wrong, evil persons?

When will they seize a shipment of Toyotas because they “could” be used to kill somone or used in a drive by?

I can think of thousands of other products that are perfectly legal that “COULD”, with enough money and work, be turned into something dangerous or illegal that “COULD” be used illegally or improperly.

Next they’ll be shuttering the doors of certain churches and confiscating the property because they “COULD” be used to preach hate or advocate for believing in one true God (and against Mooslimes), or endorse certain political candidates in violation of the IRS rules. Ya know, “POSSIBLY”, “MAY” or “COULD” be used illegally.

Is it time for the revolution to start yet?

I just wish this store owner had lots of money and the nastiest set of attorneys in the legal system and sued each one of the agents individually and severally and the BATF, and take it all the way up the chain. Think of the case. A legal, legitimate product was stolen at gunpoint by the government thugs from a legal retailer before they were even legally purchased by end users on the grounds that the product “could” at some point in the future be made into some kind of weapon that “could”, after those expensive modifications, be deemed “illegal”.


94 posted on 02/28/2010 11:45:29 AM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Hands and Free Minds could easily be turned into dangerous weapons.

Thus, Hands and Free Minds must be henceforth possessed only under strict license and control of the state.... for the good of the collective.


95 posted on 02/28/2010 11:50:35 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Harrius Magnus
The ATF needs to be disbanded and its members permanently banned from jobs in law-enforcement.

Bad enough that these idiots have access to firearms,let alone the authority that comes with a badge

96 posted on 02/28/2010 11:54:27 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: btcusn

Yea, anyone with one eye and a grain of sense knows that even if you COULD convert it to fire live ammo, it would only fire one round and the only person killed with it would be the person holding the gun.


97 posted on 02/28/2010 12:32:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: btcusn

Also, when the the ATF’s authority extend to things that merely LOOK like guns?


98 posted on 02/28/2010 12:33:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

High-end “paint-ball” type of toy.

That is not uncommon for those that take gaming serious.


99 posted on 02/28/2010 12:40:48 PM PST by Hulka
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To: wita

Ref the cost, please see post 99.


100 posted on 02/28/2010 12:41:57 PM PST by Hulka
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