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"In my investigation of Isaiah, I learned that he had gained weight, moved and breathed occasionally on his own. His photos displayed an infant who by all accounts seemed normal in appearance apart from some paraphernalia of the critical care trade," Dr. Zivot observed.

And yet the Canadian death panel wants to declare Baby Isaiah "brain dead" and kill him.

1 posted on 02/27/2010 12:08:46 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/27/2010 12:09:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/27/2010 12:10:20 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 02/27/2010 12:10:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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5 posted on 02/27/2010 12:16:06 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: wagglebee
In Tennessee,
if two Physicians declare you dead, you are dead
One may be a Mortician

In the case of most hospitals with ICU Capability,
in the case of a death declaration while on life supports,
one of the declaring Physicians should be
a Neurologist or Neurosurgeon,
to rigorously apply appropriate criteria for establishing “Brain Death”

This rather simplifies the question
and keeps it quite local
If the Baby was breathing on its own,
it is not “Brain Dead” by any criteria

6 posted on 02/27/2010 12:23:00 PM PST by HangnJudge
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7 posted on 02/27/2010 12:25:59 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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BTTT

Thank you for posting and the ping. I had not heard about this case.


8 posted on 02/27/2010 12:28:41 PM PST by pinkpanther111 (Know before whom you stand)
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MUNICH, Germany February 25, 1935 - A German doctor has stated in an editorial in the Munich Free Press that the controversy surrounding the fate of Baby Isaiah May is ignoring the fundamental issue at stake - the status of the child as a human being.

Dr. Joel B. Zivot, an associate professor in the department of anesthesiology, University of Munich, and the director of the intensive care unit, cardiac sciences program, at St. Boniface General Hospital in Munich, said, "What has been reported is information that misdirects the public from the fundamental issues.

"Although the issue before the court is the degree of brain injury incurred by Isaiah, I realize that it is Isaiah's status as a human being that is on trial." Isaiah was born in the Regensburg Mountain House Hospital after a difficult 40-hour delivery. On Oct. 24th, the boy was airlifted to Munich's Stollery Children's Hospital because Isaiah's umbilical cord had been wrapped around his neck, resulting in severe oxygen deprivation. He was then placed on a ventilator in the hospital's neonatal intensive care unit.

The hospital declared Isaiah “not worthy of life” shortly thereafter and clinical director Dr. Ernest Z. Phillipos informed the parents of his decision to take Isaiah off the ventilator.

The parents, Isaac and Rebecka May, took the hospital and Munich Health Services to court, seeking a 90-day injunction against the order.

On January 27, Munich Court of Justice Michelle Crighton ruled that Isaiah should remain on life support until February 19th for further assessment by medical experts.

Last Friday Justice Crighton again decided to give the parents of the infant more time to assemble medical experts to review their son's condition, who against all odds seems to be thriving.

"He's doing very well. There hasn't been very many improvements over the past few weeks but he's still growing. He's over 12 pounds and he just looks like a perfect little boy," Isaiah's father Isaac told reporters.

Dr. Zivot said his own inquiry into Isaiah's case has confirmed the parents' assessment of their son's condition and chances for life, but has also raised the question of the moral obligation Isaiah's doctors have toward his care.

"In my investigation of Isaiah, I learned that he had gained weight, moved and breathed occasionally on his own. His photos displayed an infant who by all accounts seemed normal in appearance apart from some paraphernalia of the critical care trade," Dr. Zivot observed.

"In contemporary thought," Dr. Zivot continued, "once born, humanity is considered automatic and should not be revoked by disability. The yardstick of being a human being is set too high for Isaiah. Discussion on the prediction of degree of disability, including mental capacity, is not relevant as are counter-arguments based on the physical appearance of normalcy."

"All that really matters, to be blunt, is if Isaiah is dead or alive." 


13 posted on 02/27/2010 12:48:35 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: wagglebee

The good doctor was very wrong in one aspect: the child was human from the moment of his conception (not at birth).


16 posted on 02/27/2010 12:58:14 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: wagglebee
It looks like it is probable that without artificial means, the child would die naturally.

Another way of looking at this in light of the current health care debate is whether the family has enough money to personally pay for artificially sustaining his life, or whether limited public resources/dollars, (in this public medical care system,) should be allocated to sustain his life over other potential uses of those dollars - such as fixing a lame child's leg. These are real hard choices that have to be made and become harder as resources diminish due to debt and higher personnel costs due to benefits. But shouldn't the public should have the right to decide where and how its public resources (taxes) are expended?

In the United States the current question could be whether private insurance should pay for it and whether everyone in that insurance pool should experience a 30% increase in their premiums to pay for it. In the US case, we generally do pay for it and do, as a consequence, experience the rate increases. The coverage and limitation depend on the contract (policy) and local state laws requiring certain benefits. But then the public wants no preexisting conditions, no limits on benefits, etc. and we complain when our premiums climb.(I paid medical claims for many years in my early days and premature infant costs were amongst the highest medical care claims.)

We just have to understand that every decision has a (unintended) consequence. Our system does not guarantee equal societal benefits to all, it ensures equal treatment under the law and the protection of our natural rights to life, liberty and property from government by the whole. Does a right to life include a right to demand public (or private insurance) resources to artificially sustain that life? Does a right to life include a right to demand shelter, food and medical care from the public at large? If so, is that a sustainable system? Can we afford that without bringing the economy down and elevating mediocrity.

19 posted on 02/27/2010 1:01:48 PM PST by marsh2
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Thanks for the ping, Wagglebee.


30 posted on 02/27/2010 1:41:52 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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Remember this little boy in our prayers, as a Canadian I detest our medical system, and would love to see it fall. This is another reason why.

God bless this little boy and his family and show the courts and doctors that miracles still happen.


33 posted on 02/27/2010 2:59:56 PM PST by Bulwyf
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