[ansel12]

socialized much with submariners

Lol, that isn't always easy, I guess you have noticed that they can suddenly be a thousand miles away inside a privacy bubble. The living in close quarters seems to make them able to separate themselves from the people in the room without any effort.

[Finny]

Actually, no, I never saw that side of them, but it sure makes sense! I used to work in a little dive bar that was a hang-out for submariners, along with Marines -- the only two types of customers I served, other than ex-submariners and ex-Marines, wives and ex-wives. Mostly it was active submarine guys and Marines.

I learned that submariners were without exception: a)crazy and b) above-average in native intelligence. Not just any dope could serve on a sub.