CPAC sells out? Sodomy, the ACLU, Ron Paul and the conservative movement

http://www.worldtribune.com ^ | February 26, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid for Accuracy in Media

[Maelstorm]

But what many people don

[Maelstorm]

This is a good article. I think many conservative/libertarians are being played. Is is conservative or libertarian to pass legislation and policies promoting/forcing sexual liberalism to children and to the public? Is it libertarian to foist gay marriage on the citizenry without a vote or respect for the citizenry? The left has always been not just about fiscal control but of what we think. They use trumped up "civil rights" to oppress those who they disagree with and there is no better example of this than with so called "gay rights".

I'm glad this article points out that GOProud isn't a conservative group. It was founded by the Log Cabin Republicans who appear in gay pride parades displaying lewd vulgar behavior and speech in public on their floats to be almost indistinguishable from their more radical counterparts. They support the same radical agenda of oppressing those who disagree with them. They may want to keep their money but they still want to be in your face.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, “What are they doing at CPAC?” “

OK Keene, splain it!

[icwhatudo]

It was good to see the article point out that the previous speaker had spent time praising CPAC for inviting the homosexual activists. That was edited out of most videos about Sorba. What was left out was the fact that the booing started before Sorba had even begun to speak. It takes guts to speak out for what you believe in and, although he seemed a little rattled, I’m proud of what Sorba did. Just as I am proud of what the Marine general did yesterday speaking out against allowing open homosexuals in the military.

[SnakeDoctor]

I’ve been to CPAC previously (though its been a while).

CPAC has never been the conservative mecca that some have billed it as. It tends to draw more blue-blood country-club-type Republicans — the type of conservative that looks down on social conservatism as dragging the movement down. The speakers are often good ... but the attendees are often Washington-insider types that are well out-of-touch with true outside-of-the-beltway conservatism.

SnakeDoc

[VictoryGal]

Good article, but I have to take exception to one item.

>These “radical regimes,” such as the Christian-dominated government in Uganda, are trying to prevent the spread of AIDS and protect traditional moral values by toughening laws against homosexuality.

I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.

[Maelstorm]

Yeah why are they there? CPAC is supposed to be a venue for conservatism. William F. Buckley Jr. would never have bought into the crap that is GayProud.

[aSeattleConservative]

The words conservative and libertarian shouldn’t even be used in the same sentence, as it might give one the impression that they agree with one another on social issues.

The Cato Institute is nothing about a libertarian “stink tank”. If you’re not familiar with the official Libertarian Party Platform on “personal relationships”, here it is:

1.3 Personal Relationships

“Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.”

If you want to talk about Ron Paul and his opinion on the above subject, I have a taped interview of him with a member of the Constitution Party. It’s not pretty.

[stephenjohnbanker]

No he wouldn’t. RINOS rule these days.

[Maelstorm]

Actually you are wrong. The Ugandan Law covers the execution of homosexuals when they have sex with minors. It isn’t a general law mandating death to homosexuals. Personally I find it refreshing that Africa is waking up as the rest of the world including America is losing its way. Homosexual activists target our children and we do nothing, our military men suffer abuse and we hear silence, everyone is seemingly afraid of this group of people who could live their lives in silence and privacy as most of us do if only they could control their need to put their sexual preference in the face of everyone and be praised for it. I don’t have any sympathy for those who in their attempt to oppress the world in to worshiping them find themselves facing an extreme backlash. Worse will come and I won’t ask and I won’t tell.

[Maelstorm]

I know and I think libertarians are failing in their analysis. One does not have to be religious to understand why gay activism is dangerous and oppressive. It is a leftist tool to reshape hearts and minds with trumped up oppressions. They turn anti-bullying programs into homosexual indoctrination programs, they turn safe sex programs into indoctrination about a behavior that is the least safe sexual behavior at all, and they will do the same in corporations, the military, et. They do not intend to stop until they are not only tolerated but they are worshiped and it is pretty close to that the way it goes.

[TADSLOS]

CPAC 2010:

Homosexuals

Grover Norquist islamists

The Mitt Romney GOP

Ron Paulistas

That's not conservatism. That's a freak show.

[aSeattleConservative]

These “radical regimes,” such as the Christian-dominated government in Uganda, are trying to prevent the spread of AIDS and protect traditional moral values by toughening laws against homosexuality. I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.

The homosexual ladened United States is a fine one to preach moral values to a country like Uganda. Didn't a degenerate by the name of "Degeneres" recently get the nod for one of America's most popular television programs?

If you want to talk Scripture, there are those that disagree with you on the execution of sodomities:
Link to Scripture

[Irenic]

I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.
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IIRC, it is execution only for those homosexuals that molest children under 18 or have AIDS and knowing spread it.

[NoRedTape]

Fold-up that tent; CPACk it in.

CPAC is a flagrant joke.
Bring on the Tea Partiers, full-steam.

[achilles2000]

As I recall, the Ugandan law calls for execution for sodomites who deliberately spread AIDS and sodomite child rape. The law doesn’t call for execution for sodomites in general.

[rae4palin]

And don’t forget the personal corruption of Keene. Keene’s selling of CPAC endorsements is why Sarah Palin did not attend.

[aSeattleConservative]

As I recall, the Ugandan law calls for execution for sodomites who deliberately spread AIDS and sodomite child rape. The law doesn’t call for execution for sodomites in general.

Thanks for the information FRiend. Being that even American homosexual leaders acknowledge that AIDS is the "gay disease"; that the CDC states that homosexuals are 50 times more likely to contract HIV than other groups, I'm thinking that homosexual sex in itself is pretty much a "deliberate" spread of AIDS. When it comes to "child rape": unless Uganda doesn't have age of consent laws, ANY homosexual sex with a child would be considered rape (at least statutory rape).

[Kahonek]

Actually, the bill is pretty broad. The text is below. It applies the death penalty to anyone who is gay and has sex more than once (a “serial offender”). It also has provisions to imprison anyone who rents to gay people and anyone who knows someone is gay and doesn’t turn that person in to the government. Here’s the “death penalty” section:

“3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the

(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;

(b) offender is a person living with HIV;

(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;

(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;

(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;

(f) offender is a serial offender, or

(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,

(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.”

[Ol' Sparky]

I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals.

Leviticus 20:13

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

[ivyleaguebrat]

It is disingenuous to imply that the proposed Ugandan law only pertains to sex with minors or HIV infection.

The law prescribes life imprisonment for any type of gay sex, and execution for “serial offenders” of the crime of homosexuality.

It also prescribes 7 years in prison for “aiding and abetting homosexuality,” which could presumably apply to family, friends, landlords, employers, etc...

I do not understand how anyone could applaud this. I find it disgusting. Whether Uganda should give a crap what I think is a different matter.