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When can we let go of the myth of the “conservative” Hispanics?
The Collins Report ^ | February 26, 2010, | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: Tarpon

Yes and come April we’ll be treated to a whole month of racial and cultural chauvinism because April is “Hispanic Heritage Month’’. I can’t wait. First though we have to get through March. March is “Womens History Month.’’


41 posted on 02/26/2010 7:32:11 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

Their media parrot is rapidly disappearing.


42 posted on 02/26/2010 7:35:18 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: posterchild

I’m really, really glad to hear that.

I’m just going by the ones who married into the family. They don’t identify as “hispanic” (but look it) and their ancestors probably helped Sam Houston kick Santa Anna’s butt.

In any case, can ANY group looking for racial spoils really be courted by conservatives? Either they attracted by conservative principles or not. If we court them by race, we’re abandoning the conservative principle of a color blind society for the Left’s “identity politics.”

Also, if a group is so lost to the concept of national sovereignty and the rule of law that they support illegal immigration, can we really court them?


43 posted on 02/26/2010 7:37:14 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: kabar
¡Oígame, lo siento mucho, pero así es como lo es! For all practical Federal government worker purposes, such as Affirmative Action, the working definition of "Hispanic" is largely (but not completely) based on skin color. The appropriate approximate hue being that of a brown paper grocery bag, which of course, varies from store to store.

But, Chileans, Argentines, and Spaniards will find themselves automatically on the outs. Penelope Cruz, Xavier Bardem, even with a great tan? Fuggedaboutit. Oddly enough, white Cubans and Puerto Ricans are OK with the bureaucraps. Mexicans, Central Americans? No Problem. White Colombians, Venezuelans? possible problem. Bolivia? No Problem. Ecuador? No Problem. Peru? Could be a problem.

Go figure. And do bring the grocery bag.

44 posted on 02/26/2010 7:38:29 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: MamaTexan

I agree. People who self identify as conservatives will be drawn to conservative ideas regardless of their ancestry. People who don’t consider themselves as conservatives won’t care for those ideas regardless of their ancestry. It’s all about the individual and this group catering crap is just a waste of energy.


45 posted on 02/26/2010 7:40:18 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: Tarpon

Do you really think so? I do get the feeling that the lame stream media might finally realize that “The One’’ is just a pile of gold-plated, long-winded crap and their carrying water for him is starting to look like the equivalent of journalistic fellatio. Lets hope so.


46 posted on 02/26/2010 7:42:40 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: posterchild
I've always reasoned that anyone who risks his life to get into the USA has a yearning for freedom and opportunity - not necessarily big government handouts.
47 posted on 02/26/2010 7:43:52 AM PST by Dansong
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To: Little Ray

Agreed.


48 posted on 02/26/2010 7:49:30 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: All

Wasn’t there just a story yesterday regarding a poll where Hispanics self-identified as conservatives to the tune of 60 percent?


49 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:28 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: John-Irish

Look at the polls, the influence of the tea party, which is nothing but denigrated by the lame stream media, we are breaking free ... ABC news announces 20% staff cut, which looks like the first step towards disposal sale. The tipping point approaches.

I think electing BHO was the lame stream media’s Waterloo.


50 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:59 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Here is a Census Bureau release: An Older and More Diverse Nation by Midcentury

Notice the category of non-Hispanic whites. Skin color is really irrelevant when it comes to deciding who gets the federal goodies. This has less to do about race as it does about creating another category of victims.

We have created something similar with "Asians." Here is the the Virginia Department of Minority Business definition:

“Asian American” means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian subcontinent, or the Pacific Islands, including but not limited to Japan, China, Vietnam, Samoa, Laos, Cambodia, Taiwan, Northern Mariana, the Philippines, a U.S. territory of the Pacific, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

The definitions of Hispanic and Asian under Virginia law are ludicrous. They make no sense. What do Japanese, Chinese, Indians, and Filipinos have in common except being from the same geographic region of the globe? Similarly, “Hispanics” encompass all of Latin America and the Iberian Peninsula, i.e., the former colonialists. These types of classifications are reminiscent of those under apartheid in South Africa, which had four main groups with a number of sub-groups and even “honorary whites.” Republicans should take the lead in abolishing these discriminatory programs in post-racial America and use immigration as an example of the unfairness of these laws.

51 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: Dansong
I've always reasoned that anyone who risks his life to get into the USA has a yearning for freedom and opportunity - not necessarily big government handouts.

I suspect that is true as well, though personally the only people I've ever met in the US legally who risked their lives to get here had come from behind the iron curtain.
52 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:47 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: kabar

Well when I was a kid I was taught that a Hispanic was someone whose ancestors are from a country whose primary language was derived from Latin. So I was taught that the French and Italian were also “Hispanic.” Seem that is not the case these days.

But anyway, it’s an ethnicity and not a race, so yeah most are white folks.

The funny part to me is that in Mexico, white European Spanish families are still busy screwing over the indigenous people of Mexico, and telling them it’s the US’s fault they are getting a raw deal. How they get away with that is beyond me.


53 posted on 02/26/2010 7:55:22 AM PST by Jonx6
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To: Tarpon

Yes, I think you’re right. They just can’t all come out and say they were wrong. I hope the majority of Americans learn something from this, about ‘’false Gods’’ and people calling themselves ‘’The Ones we’ve been waiting for’’. I hope they do but I’m not that optimistic.


54 posted on 02/26/2010 7:56:46 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: erman
"Hispanics" make up about 35% of the population.

16% according to the Bureau of the Census.

55 posted on 02/26/2010 7:57:39 AM PST by kabar
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To: Jonx6

The same way that “whitey” is blamed for everything wrong in the USA. It’s easier to scapegoat someone else rather than deal with the issues at hand.


56 posted on 02/26/2010 8:03:23 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: erman

Another great post. Thank you!


57 posted on 02/26/2010 8:04:41 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: Jonx6
But anyway, it’s an ethnicity and not a race, so yeah most are white folks.

If it is an ethnicity then how can a Mayan from Mexico or Guatemala be considered an Hispanic? Frankly, it appears to be based on a shared linguistic heritage than ethnicity.

58 posted on 02/26/2010 8:06:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: reagan_fanatic
While the vast majority of us are in favor of LEGAL immigration and against the illegal variety, the general feeling in the Hispanic community is that we’re against immigration, period, and as such means that we hate them and don’t want them here.

We let too many journalists and politicians get away with using 'hispanic', 'illegal alien' and 'immigrant' as if they were interchangeable. They are not.
59 posted on 02/26/2010 8:10:44 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: livius

Good post. Thank you.

I work weekly with numerous Hispanic families, most of them from Mexico. I don’t talk to them about politics. What I do know is that they are hard working and have a deep love and committment for their families.

The second paragraph of your post is spot on. And those who were “absorbed” can certainly be persuaded otherwise, because their values are conservate.


60 posted on 02/26/2010 8:46:52 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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