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To: ZULU; Carry_Okie
Huh?? NO! (please see my post #53)

I am offended by this comment which I believe seeks to delegitimize Jewish/Hebrew/Israelite/Judean rights to Hebron, Maarat Hamachpelah, and Kever Rachel:

"Correction: There were Jews Hebrews at those sites"

Carry_Okie: if that is not your point, please clarify.

70 posted on 02/25/2010 3:22:16 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

O.K.

Just wanted to make sure. I don’t talk to Muslims - verbally.

The way I understand it, The Jews were from the tribe of Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Hence all Jews are Hebrews but not all Hebrews were Jews.

Is that right?


72 posted on 02/25/2010 3:46:30 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: dervish
Carry_Okie: if that is not your point, please clarify.

All I was saying is that it is not correct to say that Abraham was "Jewish," because the term "Jew" was created many generations later by the Romans. It is not an effort do delegitimize Israel's modern claim but an effort to be historically accurate. As far as I know, the first name given to the children of Israel as a nation was "Hebrew," although there are archaeologists who claim that it probably should be pronounced "Ha-boo-roo" (probably from the root hay-vet-resh), at least there are records from ancient Egypt indicating a tribe by that name once lived in the Nile delta region (Goshen).

What is disturbing is that you would question me as such when you could simply go to my FR page and learn of a book I've authored that explains how the Sabbath year was to work and how it is important that Israel observe it in its original intent so that it can survive as a nation. Why would anyone who wrote such a book attempt to say that Israel has no claim on Hevron?

73 posted on 02/25/2010 3:46:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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