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To: Dead Corpse; metmom
Well... shoot. Why bother having a trial and an investigation then?

I'm all for the trial. Let's get it all out there in the open.

Calling me an "educrat" is as stupid as calling Gandhi a war-monger.

Well, sir (or ma'am), you seem to have a penchant for assuming that public school students are subject to the authority of their administrators 24/7, and that resources distributed for learning can be abused and misused (by definition of the district's own policy).

I understand the control issues you face while the students are within your walls. But if you are truly claiming authority over students when outside your walls, then you are a statist of the worst kind. Your statements here seem to reveal the latter.
175 posted on 03/18/2010 8:01:21 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead; Dead Corpse

There is also the argument used that because the school is a government entity and representative of the government, the school is also under the stipulations of the Constitution and that would include the 4th Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure.

If any other government entity wanted to know what was going on in your house, they’d need a search warrant obtained on probable cause. And they wouldn’t get it unless they had really good reason for it.

Not to mention the fact, that evidence gained under the same conditions that the school used, that is recordings without the knowledge and consent of the person being recorded, are thrown out in a court of law. It is not considered valid evidence, even if it can conclusively prove a person committed a crime.


178 posted on 03/18/2010 9:27:32 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bamahead
Don't call me "Sir", I work for a living.

I am assuming that the laptops in question are the property of the school district. Period. Monitoring and maintaining control over ones property is not given up just because you let someone else borrow it. This too is inherently a libertarian position.

But if you are truly claiming authority over students when outside your walls, then you are a statist of the worst kind.

I would be if I was advocating such. Maybe if you went back and re-read what I actually wrote, you'd see that I am actively fighting the notion of allowing our Students to check out our District laptops using EXACTLY these issues to keep from having to do it.

Maybe a reading comprehension class would be in order?

179 posted on 03/18/2010 9:36:02 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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