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Laptop family is no stranger to legal disputes (Webcamgate Lower Merion)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 02/25/2010 | Larry King and Bonnie L. Cook

Posted on 02/25/2010 5:18:17 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

The vice chairman of the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission could scarcely contain his scorn.

Before the commission was yet another appeal from a Philadelphia-area family, again seeking a break on unpaid electric and gas bills that by last year were closing in on $30,000.

This family lived in a $986,000 house on the Main Line. The breadwinner, until recently, had earned well more than $100,000 per year. Yet he and his wife were in hock to creditors, ranging from Uncle Sam to their former synagogue - and had regularly been stiffing Peco Energy for five years, breaking payment plan after payment plan

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: arth; laptop; lowermerion; webcam
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To: Dead Corpse
Pond scum? My you love the name calling don't you? Early lunch or one of your endless breaks? They really must not have much for you to do...Great job! You must be a whiz at keeping everything running so smoothly.

Now please point me to were I convicted anybody? I said I would flip if it happened in my house & I would get a lawyer. I suppose you will always have a job since you can install spy devices on all of our computers, laptops etc for the govt. One thing you do have correct is that you certainly aren't the best person on this thread or forum, but I already told you that!

201 posted on 03/19/2010 8:23:53 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: metmom
DON'T TRUST PUBLIC SCHOOLS, EVER.

Government period. On that much we agree.

202 posted on 03/19/2010 1:45:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: pandoraou812
Still barking up the stupid tree are we? Have fun...

BTW... Work on your insults. They sound childish and petty instead of biting and insightful.

203 posted on 03/19/2010 1:47:02 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse
Merda taurorum animas conturbit......<

I don't need to insult you. You do a good enough job yourself. I have not even insulted or stooped to name calling you dolt. (except for the dolt) DILLIGAF about you or what you might think? Have a wonderful night.

204 posted on 03/19/2010 2:02:02 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: Dead Corpse

And by the way as far as sounding childish, why is a tree stupid? Now that sounds like a child typing.


205 posted on 03/19/2010 2:09:57 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812
You do realize that none of your posts to me on this thread had a damn thing to do with the topic of the thread?

I find that hilarious...

Dolium volvitur indeed.

206 posted on 03/19/2010 2:16:10 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse; metmom
Me too actually. I just don't understand why you would consider yourself better then Metmom or use insults. You seem to know what you are talking about even if I disagree with the right of the school to use the web cam. I don't send my child to school so I don't have to deal with this bs. Caput tuum in ano est! Enjoy your weekend.
207 posted on 03/19/2010 6:23:39 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812
Better than? Some facts are self evident.

Te odeo, interfice te cochleare. Back at you...

208 posted on 03/19/2010 7:28:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse

You want me to kill myself with a spoon? roflmfao I will do you one better......Te futueo et caballum tuum!


209 posted on 03/19/2010 7:53:26 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812

Kus mijn kloten. Have a nice night...


210 posted on 03/19/2010 8:08:03 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse

No thanks. However... Potes meos suaviari clunes! Enjoy your night.


211 posted on 03/19/2010 8:15:15 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812

Bare it and share it Sweets... ;-)


212 posted on 03/19/2010 8:19:25 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dead Corpse; pandoraou812; bamahead; Tired of Taxes

You bite the hand that feeds you.

You are an educrat, defending the illegal actions of the public school and blame shifting the responsibility for the school’s actions to everyone but the school, and then telling us not to trust them ever and that public schools should be abolished, but yet you continue to work for them, happily trying to protect them and taking a paycheck from them, FReeping during work hours.

And then you call others “pond scum” and criticize others for *childish insults*? That’s the pot calling the kettle black.

You are so hypocritical.


213 posted on 03/19/2010 8:22:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Abby4116
Something about the program (LANRev) installed on the laptops that automtically activates the webcam when the laptop is opened.

Not that simple - it doesn't just automatically activate unless a person configures it to do so. This was supposed to be done only when a computer was reported stolen or missing. What's in dispute is whether the school district activated the cameras in the absence of a report of theft or loss. It's my understanding that the district says this laptop was reported missing.

214 posted on 03/19/2010 8:22:58 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: metmom
Maybe. But at least I don't let emotions over rule my logic or common sense.

I've tried to explain the property rights aspect. I've tried to point out that not all the facts are in. You are putting the worst possible spin on this absent sufficient data.

I'm sorry. But I just can't take you seriously any more.

215 posted on 03/19/2010 8:24:01 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: PhatHead
It's my understanding that the district says this laptop was reported missing.

I expected that they'd eventually claim that. It's the only thing they can do to cover their butts.

216 posted on 03/19/2010 8:29:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dead Corpse

And nobody can take an educrat who blames the parents for the school district’s actions seriously.


217 posted on 03/19/2010 8:31:25 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I hope it makes you feel better casting that pejorative at someone who’s actually trying to to change that.


218 posted on 03/19/2010 8:33:46 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: metmom

I’m just explaining the software’s capabilities. It doesn’t turn itself on - somebody has to do it. I’ve seen some of the articles describing it as if it’s malware. All client management software has extensive capabilities to over-ride local admin rights. There is nothing nefarious about that. The primary issue in this case is whether there was a report of a stolen or missing laptop. The software didn’t commit any offenses. (Full disclosure: I’ve done some consulting work in the past with the software’s developers.)


219 posted on 03/19/2010 8:34:15 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead
I’m just explaining the software’s capabilities. It doesn’t turn itself on - somebody has to do it.

Which is the crux of the matter. The responsibility rests on THAT person, no one else.

And even IF it turns out that the laptop was really reported missing or stolen, (and it would be interesting to find out by whom, because it apparently wasn't the boy to whom it was assigned), the school officials were still out of line in confronting the kid about what he was doing in his own room using information they essentially admitted was improperly gained.

If they activated the webcam in response to a report like that, then all they could legally do is use only the information involved in recovering the laptop. Anything else they found by that webcam would be off limits to them as it was not legally obtained. It would be thrown out in a court of law.

Why the school thinks that it's above the law in that respect is beyond me, but that appears to be pretty typical educrat mentality.

220 posted on 03/19/2010 8:43:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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