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Do the Math – Stay Home and 3rd Party Voters did NOT put Obama in the White House
2/24/2010 | Pan_Yan

Posted on 02/24/2010 7:48:07 PM PST by Pan_Yan

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Now that we've settled that, let's stop losing the last election and find CONSERVATIVES to run in 2010 and 2012.
1 posted on 02/24/2010 7:48:07 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Your numbers are meaningless.

You leave out the number of registered voters who stayed home. Your assertion that you don’t like the proposed number is as meaningless as saying there was another number.

Remember: 82.6% of all statistics posted on an online board are pulled out of the poster’s butt.


2 posted on 02/24/2010 8:00:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m afraid your post was incomprehensible.


3 posted on 02/24/2010 8:02:26 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: Pan_Yan

Your numbers about who stayed home are on par with the numbers used to substantiate Global Warming. Same methodology, same result.


4 posted on 02/24/2010 8:03:30 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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Fair enough, but we have to put more effort into suppressing the Democrat vote ~ we had 'em with that "IT'S ON WEDNESDAY GUYS' business, but apparently the campaign managers forgot that so many of 'em can't read, or won't read!

Then there was the fact that we had REPUBLICANS crossing over to vote for this guy and his brain damaged running mate. Something about Biden's hair ~ least that's what I've seen even here on FR, particularly among the "founding population".

It does no good to turn out our troops if they turn against us. Better candidates should put a stop to that!

5 posted on 02/24/2010 8:04:20 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: freedumb2003

I am several billion dollars short of being able to use the same methodology.


6 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:00 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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ACORN and voter fraud helped, though. He likely got Ohio, Indiana, North Carolina, and Florida through fraud. Republicans had 6 years of control to deal with the situation and did not do so.


7 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:03 PM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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You’d have to have some facts about the normal battleground states, and Virginia and NC and others that went from red to blue. Nationwide totals don’t mean anything, and the stay at home conservatives would have been most critical in the closest states, and the red to blue states.

I haven’t seen any data that really provides what’s needed to analyze those factors.


8 posted on 02/24/2010 8:09:27 PM PST by Will88
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>>I am several billion dollars short of being able to use the same methodology.<<

Inventing data is zero cost. You get billions for convincing people you are collecting data.

Same methodology, same results. You just don’t get any money.


9 posted on 02/24/2010 8:09:41 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: meyer

There is no doubt that massive fraud is becomeing more of an issue every election. However, it was not conservative fraud, apathy or ignorance that gave Obama the election.


10 posted on 02/24/2010 8:11:10 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: Will88

I agree that a much more comprehensive comparison would be insightful. However, I think you would reach the same conclusion. John McCain was a rotten candidate. The loss was completely his fault, not the fault of conservative voters.


11 posted on 02/24/2010 8:15:10 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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The loss was completely his fault, not the fault of conservative voters.

That's true, and I don't know how many conservatives actually stayed at home, but it significant numbers did stay at home it was because everyone knew McCain is a RINO and he also ran a terrible campaign.

12 posted on 02/24/2010 8:20:55 PM PST by Will88
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To: Pan_Yan

Recent election in Oregon

Jeff Merkley - D 864,392 49%

Gordon Smith - R 805,159 46%

David Brownlow Constitution Party 92,565 5%

60,000 of Brownlow’s votes to Smith would have
kept Merkley who pushes Obama’s agenda out of the Senate

The same situation played out for the Senate in Minnesora


13 posted on 02/24/2010 8:25:19 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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Sit at homes, Third Party and liberal voter fraud
gave us Obama


14 posted on 02/24/2010 8:26:36 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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Sit at homes, Third Party and liberal voter fraud gave us Obama

Nice caveat you added on the end there.

15 posted on 02/24/2010 8:29:42 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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Thanks for the numbers. Obama had a great turnout among minorities and young voters. Women also bought his message hook line and sinker. Obama only had 41% of white men. So basically we need to find out why suburban women like Obama so much.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 8:42:40 PM PST by byteback
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17 posted on 02/24/2010 8:42:42 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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Who ever stated that 3rd party candidates put obamao in the WH? I've never seen such an absurdity!

The Texas twerp was the last 3rd party candidate to throw the election to the marxists.

The major "stay-at-home" effect was in the 2006 elections...That gave the marxists control of congress...

While 2008 had a "stay-at-home" contribution, it was the namby pamby wimp "I'm an independent" vote that shifted into the marxist column to put obamao in the WH.

18 posted on 02/24/2010 8:43:25 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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why did you post this?...did someone assert that stay at homes or third party poopers gave zero the lead?

you post would be more interesting if you went from state to state and see how those votes played out....afterall, it might only take 20,000 votes to swing some states electoral votes....

but no matter....the real destroyer of America happens when third party poopers destroy the chances for good conservative or pub Senator or congressman, or governors....

oh how better would we be if we had just a few more votes in the house or senate....we'd be far better off...

but to satisfy you, I'll add that if you took the number of so-called good Americans who voted just to vote for "change" whatever that is...and the Americans who wanted to vote for the first nazi, I mean first BLACK to the presidency and of course you're varied group of nuts and hacks and idiot and ill informed then the likes of zero wouldn't have had a chance...

still intriques me that blacks or whites still think bama is some kind of black guy....

he's not...he's a nazi muslim leaning statist who has NOTHING in common with American blacks...

he has lived a charmed life....a rich life....he and Michelle my belle are part of the false elite...put there by their masters...

19 posted on 02/24/2010 8:45:09 PM PST by cherry (i)
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The Tea Party must not run third party candidates in any U.S. congressional election in November or at anytime. We need to reform the Republican party! kick out the Rinos! Defeat the Democrats in all races! Third party candidates will have the Ross Perot effect and will only insure the democrats controll of the U.S. congress and the destruction of America! ARE YOU LISTENING TEA PARTY! NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES! REFORM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!

Snip from here:
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/no-third-party-candidates


20 posted on 02/24/2010 8:55:00 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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