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To: kabar
LOL. Create a phony strawman and then attack it.

That is all you have done all day, you went off into the ozone on something that had nothing to do with me or my subject, I'm talking politics and you wanted to share all the new things that you have learned about the immigration problems.

I said that I have been walking the walk on immigration since the 1960s, not that I was older than you, you do see the difference don't you? I was also correct, you are to the left of me on immigration. End all immigration, evidently you support bringing in more than a million foreigners a year into our crowded, shattered communities, I don't, we filled up about 1970 as far as I'm concerned, and frankly I wouldn't mind going back much farther.

By the way Protestant Hispanics voted for Bush at 56% in 2004, white women only voted 55% Republican that year. You cannot compare a group (pros. hispanics) that is close to 50/50 Republican voters with blacks, but you can win them to a more consistent support of social conservatism and free enterprise. I'm also interested in figuring out a way to win 40% of the Jewish vote and 20 or 25% of the black vote and increasing the female support for conservatism too.

98 posted on 02/24/2010 9:17:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: ansel12
That is all you have done all day, you went off into the ozone on something that had nothing to do with me or my subject, I'm talking politics and you wanted to share all the new things that you have learned about the immigration problems.

You can't be that dense. Immigration affects our electoral politics. It has changed the demographics of our country since the 1965 Immigration Act. I provided you with Professor Gimpel's recent study on how immigration has changed the electoral politics in America's 50 largest counties.

I said that I have been walking the walk on immigration since the 1960s, not that I was older than you, you do see the difference don't you? I was also correct, you are to the left of me on immigration. End all immigration, evidently you support bringing in more than a million foreigners a year into our crowded, shattered communities, I don't, we filled up about 1970 as far as I'm concerned, and frankly I wouldn't mind going back much farther.

I am a immigration activist who lobbies on the Hill and in Richmond. We are currently trying to pass an e-verify law in VA. I spend full time on the issue without pay. All you do is talk about the issue. I am doing something about it. One of major problems in the GOP is that there are misguided people like you who believe that we can make a significant dent in the pro-Democrat Hispanic vote. It isn't going to happen. We are building another permanent underclass that is poorly educated, has high out of wedlock birth rates, and is very dependent upon government welfare payments. Our efforts are better spent at reducing the flow of immigration rather than trying to play identity politics.

Re the idea that I support bringing in 1 million legal immigrants a year is pure nonsense. Stop pulling this stuff out of your butt. You must have a reading comprehension problem.

By the way Protestant Hispanics voted for Bush at 56% in 2004, white women only voted 55% Republican that year. You cannot compare a group (pros. hispanics) that is close to 50/50 Republican voters with blacks, but you can win them to a more consistent support of social conservatism and free enterprise. I'm also interested in figuring out a way to win 40% of the Jewish vote and 20 or 25% of the black vote and increasing the female support for conservatism too.

The problem with your flawed theory is that most of the minority groups don't vote on social conservative issues. They vote based on their pocketbooks and what the government can provide them. We have 60 million people on Medicaid in this country. 36 million Americans are on food stamps. You are laboring under the phony assumption that if Hispanics and other minorities just understood what the GOP stood for, they would stop voting for the Dems. It is not going to happen. And we continue to replenish Dem voters with our immigration policies that bring in 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS a year, 87% of whom are minorities as classified by the USG. Immigrants and minorities vote Democrat. Demography is destiny.

99 posted on 02/25/2010 6:38:44 AM PST by kabar
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