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Brown vote draws anger, shrugs
Politico ^ | Feb. 23, 2010 | Lisa Lerer

Posted on 02/23/2010 10:24:00 AM PST by mystery-ak

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To: jiminycricket000
and I voted for Brown, on his promises to not only stop Obamacare but to stop all big government tax-and-spend programs, and because his war cry was “THIS IS THE PEOPLES’ SEAT”. “

Th people of Massachusetts seat. Massacuhesets happens to be the most liberal state in the country.
The “people's seat” doesn't mean the people of deep red states like Alabama or Utah.
If you voted for Scott Brown expecting him to vote like a Senator from Mississippi, then you are living in dreamland.

41 posted on 02/23/2010 11:32:16 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: roses of sharon
Why don’t you tell me?
You put up a post, that made a claim, that is not supported by the facts. I called you out on it.
It couldn’t be clearer than that.
42 posted on 02/23/2010 11:34:00 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: mystery-ak

Scott Brown and the Jobs Bill [Veronique de Rugy]

Here is the very inspiring keynote speech given by Glenn Beck at CPAC. Its main message is that our problem is not Barack Obama, our problem is progressivism. But Republicans are part of that problem — sadly, it didn’t take long for me to read in the press more evidence that he is right.

Yesterday, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts — along with four other Republicans — broke with GOP leaders to support the new “jobs bill” going through Congress.

Why? I have no clue. This bill won’t have much effect on the economy. Shouldn’t Republicans grasp that, at this stage? I understand that the bill featured four provisions that might sound appealing to Republicans, and to anyone who doesn’t understand basic economics, including a measure exempting businesses hiring the unemployed from Social Security payroll taxes through December and giving them another $1,000 credit if new workers stay on the job a full year.

Let me explain in simple words. These tax credits are a brilliant example of bipartisan nonsense. If your business is slow, and your customers are not buying your goods and services, it is likely that your tax liability will be significantly reduced or even nonexistent. No tax liability, no need for a tax credit. Better yet, no customers, no need for employees, tax credit or not. (Duh.)

Oh, and by the way, economists at the National Federation of Independent Businesses, the largest association of small business owners in the country, have been saying for months that this is not what businesses need right now

If Scott Brown wants to help the economy recover, he needs to understand that giving with one hand while stealing big time with the other hand won’t do it. What do I mean? Well, extending useless tax credits on the one hand while the president is proposing big tax increases for those earning more than $250,000 a year on the other. And, of course, those tax increases will include all the small business owners that report their business income as individual income.

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43 posted on 02/23/2010 11:34:26 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: SmokingJoe

Yup. Time will tell who’s correct. I hope its you, but I fear its me.


44 posted on 02/23/2010 11:38:13 AM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: SmokingJoe
Your red herring aside. Like I said, the celebration is over. The key issue is this, Brown voted for RomenyCare and wants to see it implemented in the other 49 states. What ObamaCare and RomneyCare have in common -— government mandates and taxpayer subsidies -— will come back to haunt everyone in the end.

Brown ran as a fiscal conservative. Now we ALL can see, what some of us already knew. Brown is just another big government Republican. With all the unspent billions of dollars of stimulus money floating around WashDC, the last thing the Congress should be voting for is even more spending. This is fiscal insanity and Brown is right at the center of it. In Brown's first major vote as Senator, he upheld the liberal traditions of Ted Kennedy, by voting to expand the federal government by another $15-billion and at a time when America is on the verge of financial collapse.

45 posted on 02/23/2010 11:39:22 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: jiminycricket000
If you're trying to claim that Brown made it plain that all he opposed was Obamacare then take it elsewhere, I know better,”

Who said that?
But then his primary campaign themes were:
# 1. Being the 41st vote against 0bamacare.
# 2. Against trying KSM and the Gitmo terrorists in New York.
#3. Against reading Miranda rights to terrorists like the Cristmas bomber. His line was, “tax payer dollars should be spent on helping our soldiers right terrorists, bot giving them layers”
# 4. He supported using “enhanced interrogation techniques” on captured terrorists”.

Again, he is the senator from Massachusetts, the bluest of blue states. He is never going to vote the same way as a senator from a deep red state. Not gonna happen.

46 posted on 02/23/2010 11:42:28 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Reagan Man
Your red herring aside”

That from the King of red herrings?

Like I said, the celebration is over”

For you, not for me.
I am still celebrating Scott Brown grabbing the seat that Ted Kennedy occupied for over 40 years, and beating Martha “There are no terrorists in Afghanistan” Coakley.

The key issue is this, Brown voted for RomenyCare “

I don't care about Romenycare.
It's not a key issue for me. It's in Massachusetts, not in any other state.
The only thing I care about is stopping 0bamacare.

47 posted on 02/23/2010 11:47:28 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Yes it is clear Joe, I have an opinion and so do you, very simple, common and normal.
48 posted on 02/23/2010 11:54:31 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Reagan Man
With all the unspent billions of dollars of stimulus money floating around WashDC, the last thing the Congress should be voting for is even more spending.”

Yes. But then this would have passed with or without Scott Brown's vote. You'd better have a look at the vote tally.

This is fiscal insanity and Brown is right at the center of it.”

Brown is not the Senate Majority leader. His name happens to be Harry Reid. This bill is Harry Reid's creation. he is at the heat and canter of it, not Scott Brown.

In Brown's first major vote as Senator, “

Ummm..this was not Browns first vote, his first vote was to vote against, and stop a communist 0bama nominee and union thug from taking office. Scott Brown always said he was going to be an independent voter in the US senate, not according to party lines.

49 posted on 02/23/2010 11:57:30 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
What a pathetic reply.

>>>>>I don't care about Romenycare.

Obviously. Fact remains, if Scott Brown has his way, RomneyCare will replace ObamaCare and will be created in every state in the union. In the end, they might even call it, BrownCare. A pleasing prospect for you, no doubt.

50 posted on 02/23/2010 11:59:13 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
“Obviously. Fact remains, if Scott Brown has his way, RomneyCare will replace ObamaCare, and will be created in every state in the union”

Chortle!
Romneycare is called Romneycare for a reason. It's Mitt Romney's baby.
Given that Republicans make up a very small percentage of the Massachusetts state Senate seats, it's totally irrelevant how Scott Brown voted, Romenycare would have passed anyway from the massive Democratic Party majority.
If you want to stop Romneycare in the rest of the country, the guy you have too vote against is Mitt Romney, not Scott Brown.
You wanna try again?

51 posted on 02/23/2010 12:06:54 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
More red herrings! LOL

Your wild-eyed infatuation for Scott Brown is disturbing to say the least. Harry Reid has nothing to do with Brown's decision. Brown said he would be an independent thinker.

This vote shows Brown to be a liberal acting fiscally irresponsible and no better then Ted Kennedy or Martha Coakley.

52 posted on 02/23/2010 12:07:10 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mystery-ak

http://www.redstate.com/haystack/2010/02/23/reids-jobs-bill-advances/

Celebrating the GOP aisle-jumpers that helped prop up Harry Reid’s stature in the Senate, the Washington Post announces that Reid’s jobs bill has advanced past the filibuster stage:

Five Republicans, including new Sen. Scott P. Brown (Mass.), joined 57 Democrats in voting to break a filibuster of the jobs bill, after a suspenseful buildup in which members of both parties wondered whether Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) could cobble together enough support to clear the legislative hurdle.

The bipartisan result marked a breakthrough for Democrats, who have been frustrated since President Obama came to office by their inability to attract much Republican support for their agenda. The vote was also a vindication for Reid, who is grappling with a tough reelection race in Nevada and faced questions in Washington over whether he mishandled the jobs issue.

“I hope this is the beginning of a new day in the Senate,” Reid said after the vote.

New day or not, the bill (which replaced an 85 billion dollar bill that had broad GOP support) has very little chance of doing much to help the unemployment situation. The LA Times highlights the main elements of the bill which include “hiring” tax incentives, an extension of funding for highway programs, an expansion of the “build America” bonds program (to cover “certain school and energy projects”), and an equipment write-off option (as opposed to the standard “depreciation over time” mechanism in your garden variety business......


53 posted on 02/23/2010 12:07:57 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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54 posted on 02/23/2010 12:08:57 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: SmokingJoe
>>>>>Romneycare is called Romneycare for a reason. It's Mitt Romney's baby.

Brown is a Romney clone! LMBO If you want to stop RomneyCare you have to stop Brown and Romney!

55 posted on 02/23/2010 12:09:07 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mystery-ak
The spiral down into Socitalism continues regardless of who's in the White House or in Congress.
56 posted on 02/23/2010 12:10:11 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: roses of sharon

I agree. The Dems are down now, on the ropes. NOW is the time to gut them for good. At least for this election cycle. The RINO’s in the GOP either don’t know how to win or don’t want to win.


57 posted on 02/23/2010 12:10:58 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Blue Highway

“No More RINOs 2010 Tour”

Great graphic. Congrats.


58 posted on 02/23/2010 12:13:47 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Reagan Man
Listen fool, its time for you to take your insane rantings elsewhere.
Scott Brown ALWAYS said he was going to vote as an independent voter in the US Senate, not according to party lines.
He knows he is from the bluest state in the country, and is up for reelection in 2012.
No one voted for Scott Brown with the expectation that he was going to vote like a hard core conservative every time. His record as a pro-choice guy, and on other not-so-conservative issues, were there for everyone to see, before he was elected.
You'd better get used to it, and go find someone else to hate on.
59 posted on 02/23/2010 12:13:58 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Reagan Man
Brown is not running for president.
For all intents and purposes, Romney is.
60 posted on 02/23/2010 12:15:17 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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