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Scott Brown fumes over health plan
Boston Herald ^ | 2/23/10 | Jay Fitzgerald

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:41 AM PST by raccoonradio

Sen. Scott Brown yesterday warned the Obama administration against using the “nuclear option” of ramming through Congress a revised $1 trillion health-care bill outlined yesterday by the White House.

The administration unveiled what’s already being called “Obamacare II” - a mix of already approved House and Senate health-care legislation aimed at expanding coverage for 31 million Americans.

Obama’s plan also includes caps on excessive insurance-premium increases, similar to measures Gov. Deval Patrick proposed two weeks ago in Massachusetts.

A spokesman for Brown, whose dramatic Senate victory last month halted Capitol Hill momentum for health-care reform, said Democrats better not try to use a reconciliation strategy to pass the bill with a simple Senate majority.

Brown vowed during his campaign that he would be the crucial “41st vote” to kill reform legislation under the Senate’s supermajority-vote rules.

“If the Democrats try to ram their health-care bill through Congress using reconciliation, they are sending a dangerous signal to the American people that they will stop at nothing to raise our taxes, increase premiums and slash Medicare,” said Brown spokesman Colin Reed in a statement. “Using the nuclear option damages the concept of representative leadership and represents more of the politics-as-usual that voters have repeatedly rejected.”

While Brown’s office didn’t specifically reject Obama’s latest bill, there was no doubt Brown views the proposal as similar to earlier health-care plans backed by Democrats, even though he reached across the aisle to support a major jobs bill yesterday.

The administration faces an uphill bid to win the bill’s passage in Congress, where many Democrats were scared away from backing reform after Brown’s victory.

A spokesman for the White House said the plan is an “opening bid” for a planned bipartisan summit on Thursday.

In a statement, Patrick, whose office dodged questions about whether Obama lifted the premium-cap idea from his Democratic ally in Massachusetts, praised the president’s legislation and vowed to work for health-care reform.

“President Obama clearly recognizes health-care expansion must include cost-control initiatives to help working families and businesses that are drowning in higher premiums,” said Patrick, who was in Washington yesterday.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010; bhofascism; browm; brown; democrats; healthcare; nuclearoption; obama; obamacare; obamacare2; obamacareii; reconciliation; scottbrown; socializedmedicine
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To: Darlin'

Whatever helps you sleep at night Darlin’! If we don’t provide feedback, he’ll never know when he screwed up. Congress needs to know, no, they need to re-learn that voting against our interests is not a good career move.


81 posted on 02/23/2010 10:09:28 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: raccoonradio

So, why don’t our Republican leaders come out against any health care bill at all? No one wants one, no citizen or legal resident(except for a few very stupid ones)wants a frickin’ government controlled health care system. Just say no Republicans, and that includes Mr. RINO Brown.


82 posted on 02/23/2010 10:24:12 AM PST by calex59
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To: Puppage

It make him a guy who got the OK to vote no because several RINO Republicans crossed over and they didn’t need his vote anyway.


83 posted on 02/23/2010 10:24:35 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Republic of Texas
Maybe Scott read his Face Book last night. It was on fire and people were pissed. His friends list was getting smaller by the minutes as people told him off and unfriended him.
84 posted on 02/23/2010 10:32:57 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

I know that is a time honored and not always bad strategy. However, he is still establishing his identity, and this was a bad start.


85 posted on 02/23/2010 10:35:11 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

True. Good heavens, this is small peanuts compared to the big fights we have looming where we need Scott’s vote. He never stated he was anything other than an Independent Republican. He was elected to stop Obamacare and cap and trade.

Rush made comments on this and I agree with him.


86 posted on 02/23/2010 10:41:23 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Good point. McConnell and company backed a much more expensive “jobs bill.”’

The bill passed also was paid by eliminating tax protection to offshore accounts.
The swimmer is turning in his grave at that one.


87 posted on 02/23/2010 10:43:47 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: Republic of Texas
Hey, I agree, he needs to know that "we", although "we" are not his direct constituents and "we" did not vote for him, "we" are not happy that he voted with dims. I don't question the message just the method of delivery. I despise compromise. Compromise in any form means I've had to accept something less than my ideal to one degree or another. Still, compromise happens and it is always disappointing. From time to time my family and friends disappoint me but I don't resort to name calling or turn away from them because they didn't behave as I felt they should have.

One of the reasons I seldom post on political threads is because a few posters are so intolerate they immediately slam anyone who dares express an opinion that is not in lockstep with their POV. That approach is a non-productive use of time and energy.

All elected officials regardless of their party affiliation need Feedback. They need to know the electorate is paying attention. They need to know what we expect of them. But, do you really think Brown or anyone in his office will read this thread? Do you really believe a man who defied conventional thought by running as a Republican for a seat that for decades had been held by die-hard liberals will be swayed because someone called him a RINO? Instead call his office, email him, send him a snail mail or write a letter to the editor of a publication he is likely to actually see but getting all wadded up on a thread and expecting it to somehow make a difference is delusional.

88 posted on 02/23/2010 11:48:49 AM PST by Darlin' (Stay well or the government will try to kill you.)
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To: Darlin'

The other thread on this topic is over 1,000 posts. Some of those people called or faxed or emailed or all of the above. He will get the message, the question is, will he understand the consequences of ignoring it?


89 posted on 02/23/2010 11:53:22 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Ingtar
Still a RINO...

...and your point is...?

90 posted on 02/23/2010 1:07:32 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: alicewonders
Half a loaf is better than none. We all knew Brown was a Northeastern Republican - that’s the best we’re going to get from there, for now. That’s just reality...

What's not to like? Especially in the "Kennedy seat."

91 posted on 02/23/2010 1:10:13 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: gogeo

I was answering the question, not making a point.


92 posted on 02/23/2010 1:12:52 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: Ingtar
Scott Brown isn't Jim Inhofe. Oh, wait, of course not...Jim Inhofe couldn't be elected Senator from Mass.

I want to ask those who are still whining about Scott Brown...what is your plan for electing a more conservative Senator from Massachusetts?

93 posted on 02/23/2010 1:22:07 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: gogeo

Look - my only comment has been to the effect of it is hard to be disappointed when you have learned what to expect out of this sort of politician. The ones expecting miracles, ie his voting as a Republican, are the ones that are whining. These are the same ones that thought he could walk on water and should run for president.


94 posted on 02/23/2010 1:25:37 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: Ingtar
I'm happy to have him as Senator from Massachusetts. Nebraska, I'd be disappointed.

I'd never support him for Prez, but I'm happy with him where he is. I'm not sure we could do any better there, but we can for sure do worse.

95 posted on 02/23/2010 1:33:57 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: gogeo

I just hope he’s “lesser” enough to help at least some of the time. (Lesser of two evils)


96 posted on 02/23/2010 1:38:00 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: Republic of Texas
You have that right, they can look at Romenycare and Tenncare to see the future.

We have Tenncare a form of Romney care and obamadeathcare.

Do some reading, these are articles since Jan of 2010, older articles tell of waste, fraud, illegals, and earlier cuts.

TennCare cuts threaten Nashville General hospital | tennessean.com ...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100204/NEWS0204/2040350/TennCare-cuts-threaten-Nashville-General-hospital

TennCare Cuts Under Way Now

http://www.memphisdailynews.com/editorial/Article.aspx?id=47622

Call it coincidence or bad timing, but many physicians in Tennessee began taking a 14 percent cut for seeing TennCare patients on the same day Gov. Phil Bredesen announced deep cuts in health care spending.

TennCare Cuts May Close Some Hospitals

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/local/020710-tenncare-cuts-may-close-some-hospitals

TennCare Cuts May Close Some Hospitals

Proposed TennCare funding cuts would close The Med, hospital officials say

By Toby Sells
Published Friday, January 29, 2010
http://m.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/jan/29/med-cuts-would-kill-us/

97 posted on 02/23/2010 7:40:34 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: raccoonradio
OBAMANOMICS--TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Sen Scott Brown's number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan

http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

98 posted on 02/23/2010 7:41:25 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: b4its2late
above what Coakley would have.

One can only imagine what she would have been like.......probably to the left of Teddy - I know it defies all known laws of physics but more moonbatshit crazy than Kennedy.

I'll take Brown

99 posted on 02/24/2010 5:52:27 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti

I agree with you. Left of Teddy for sure.


100 posted on 02/24/2010 6:00:54 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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