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To: DoctorBulldog
Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama's six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki.

The Washington Times is owned by the Unification Church, but I'm sure they are credible now and then.

Nairobi — Kenya President Kibaki has hailed US President Barack Obama on his 2009 Nobel Peace Prize win.

He said the award was a fitting tribute to the US President for his efforts in initiating dialogue aimed at bringing about sustainable peace in various parts of the world.

'On behalf of the government and the people of Kenya, I take this opportunity to congratulate you on being declared winner of the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200910090793.html

Mighty big of Kibaki don't you think particularly since Obama campaigned for the opposition.

Now, can you truly say that you have the utmost confidence in Obama's ability to not side with Kenya and metaphorically push that red button if the Kenyan government were to "go nuclear" on America?

A-a-a, I guess that makes sense to you, however your logic entirely escapes me.

282 posted on 02/23/2010 6:10:05 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom; DoctorBulldog
Mighty big of Kibaki don't you think particularly since Obama campaigned for the opposition.

PLEASE tell me you aren't that clueless? I will explain slowly so that even you will understand.

Mwai Kibaki won the election. Raila Odinga sent his murdering thugs out and 1,500 people were murdered. The outcome of this was that Kibaki is President and Odinga was made Prime Minister. Except that they are not speaking to one another at the moment. Google it. Peace is fragile.

That said, do you REALLY believe that Kibaki would say anything to or about Obama that wasn't nice? Most of Kenya worships Obama. Kibaki doesn't want another bloodbath.

283 posted on 02/23/2010 7:15:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: lucysmom; Red Steel
lucysmom wrote: "[...] http://allafrica.com/stories/200910090793.html...Mighty big of Kibaki don't you think particularly since Obama campaigned for the opposition."

Oh, I see that AllAfrica.com is a somewhat credible news source for you. After all, if you didn't trust them at all, then you wouldn't have quoted them, right?

Then why do you give the Constitutional Disciples such a hard time?

I mean, you must have missed this one from AllAfrica.com:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200908200781.html

"Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America's first Black President, [...]"

Oh, yeah! Now I remember, we have some screenshots, too!

And, you missed this other one at AllAfrica.com:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

"Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency."

Of course, AllAfrica.com has made that one available by subscription only, but not before Red Steel managed to take a snapshot of it for me!

(Many thanks, Red Steel! You da' man!)

So, I am at a loss as to your lack of curiosity when a news source that you have decided is credible enough to cite, publishes at least two articles that refer to Barack Obama, Jr. as Kenyan born.

Yeah, I know, those articles from AllAfrica.com don't prove anything. But, one does wonder how AllAfrica.com got the impression that Obama was Kenyan-born...

Aren't you even the slightest bit curious about that? Given such confusing reports, don't you think that the Birth Certificaters actually DO deserve to see Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate?

After all, it's not like Obama has been exactly honest with the American people. Why, just today, even birther-denier Glenn Beck showed Obama's willingness to outright lie straight to our faces.

After watching that, it is beyond me why Beck would not understand why the Birth Certificaters think Obama is lying to them and just want some sort of satisfactory proof one way or the other---satisfaction which Obama is denying them and sadistically taunting them with by fighting against the release of his vaulted long form birth certificate.

But, that is not of my immediate concern.

My concern is very simple, yet you claim my logic escapes you. Simply put, the actual, stated intent of the Natural Born Citizen requirement for President was an attempt by the Founding Fathers to insure that the office of the President was free of all foreign influence and that its holder has sole and absolute allegiance, loyalty, and attachment to the U.S.

By actively campaigning for Odinga in 2006 (one among many other examples) Obama has demonstrated that he DOES NOT possess absolute allegiance to the United States and is therefore in violation of the original intent of the Natural Born citizen requirement and cannot be trusted to have America's best interests at heart when dealing with Kenya, Indonesia, or just about anything else.

Yes, the metaphorical "Red Button" issue that I raised in my previous post is an extreme case. However, sometimes it takes the extreme to help illustrate the consequences and dangers of having allowed someone with split allegiances into the Oval Office.

Cheers

P.S. - I screwed up my hotlink to the Washington Times article in my last post. This is the correct link:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/

285 posted on 02/23/2010 8:42:25 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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