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National Review Online ^ | February 21, 2010 | Bill Bennett

Posted on 02/22/2010 6:44:14 AM PST by cricket

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To: laotzu; All

Have no disagreement here. No question McCain and ‘peers’ ‘too late smart’; and not yet, totally ‘up to speed’ and probably as well; can never be; (and why he - and they - must go!).


41 posted on 02/22/2010 7:55:07 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: TheStickman
When the GOP kicks all the progressives like McCain & Graham out of the party, it will be a great day

Please stop this. "The GOP" is not a living being with its own will that is out doing things that you don't like. McCain and Graham are where they are because individual voters — going into the voting booth one by one — put them there... not because some mysterious "GOP" selected them for their RINO-ness and imposed them on the rest of us.

What did happen is that a lot of moderates RINOs joined the Republican Party as actual members, where they could vote on internal party matters, and in way too many states took over the place. The way that gets corrected is not by giving speeches at CPAC that attempt to scare the RINOs into behaving differently. It is to have people from the Republican wing of the Republican Party also join up, go to meetings, vote, and take the party back. This is what happened in Florida, where the state party chairman became the former state party chairman after he endorsed Crist for Senate a year before the primary.

This year we will nominate and elect Marco Rubio to the U.S. Senate, something that would not have happened if conservatives had remained on the sidelines playing Keyboard Cowboy while the RINOs voted on where to spend the money.

If you want to win, you have to get out of the stands and onto the field.


42 posted on 02/22/2010 7:57:48 AM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: cricket

Beck is right and Dr. Bennett is worried that too many of his old buddies in the GOP will get their asses handed to them by the voters ... as they rightly should.

Dr. Bennett, get a grip on reality and the threat that progressives (marxists) have made into the leadership of the GOP.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 7:57:58 AM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: FrankR

You’ve confirmed it: you don’t understand. But my point is not to take a jab at you. What I am suggesting is that there are many conservative and Christian libertarians whom you would find to be allies on most issues. While some people who call themselves libertarians do claim that there can be, for example, no legitimate drug laws, that is simply a reflection of their own preferences, not an inexorable conclusion from libertarianism. The Constitution itself reflects a libertarian “minarchist” philosophy.

I think we do better trying to identify our broad areas of agreement.


44 posted on 02/22/2010 7:58:36 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: cricket

Beck is dead on, on the Republican Party. When the Republicans have had power, in recent times, they have added huge spending programs. Here is one example, only.

Just with W Bush and the Prescription Drug Program he teamed up with the GOP and Democrats, so that Grandma wouldn’t have to choose between Dog Food or Prescription Drugs.

That huge additional cost to our country, put in by the GOP, will never go away. Where were the Republicans in opposing W Bush on this Progressive Spending Program.

I don’t remember too many. And surely not Bennett. The GOP, thought that by courting the Seniors, they would gain favor in the elections.

They lost their principles and their way, and that is just recently. The GOP has been slowly adding costs to the budget for years, when they get in power. Not as bad or as fast as the Democrats, but, still adding programs.

Beck, and other Conservative/Libertarians need to call out the GOP, so that when they finally get their power back, they don’t screw it up again.


45 posted on 02/22/2010 7:58:53 AM PST by Mifflin
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To: onyx
Thanks for link; 'right-on' analysis. Hope more here, read it!

Appreciate Beck; but our making critical-free 'gurus' - save the Maha Rushie that is/lol - is a mistake.

46 posted on 02/22/2010 8:03:17 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: cricket; All
One more p.s. point per your statement: If the republican party wasn’t so messed up, McCain would never have been made the parties nomineemore."

Whatever happened to the McCain 'recall'. Had they had enough signataures; he would not have been on ballot, for sure.


47 posted on 02/22/2010 8:09:01 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: cricket

Bill Bennett is Republican Establishment. He should get over it. Times have changed. Get the RINOs out.


48 posted on 02/22/2010 8:11:33 AM PST by george123
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To: justlittleoleme; cricket; All
that p.s. was misaddresed/sigh

(One more p.s. point per your statement: If the republican party wasn’t so messed up, McCain would never have been made the parties nomineemore."

Whatever happened to the McCain 'recall'. Had they had enough signataures; he would not have been on ballot, for sure.)

49 posted on 02/22/2010 8:18:13 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: achilles2000
"You’ve confirmed it: you don’t understand. But my point is not to take a jab at you."

Sorry, your "jab/un-jab" didn't work.

Libertarians stand in the center aisle, picking only the fruit they like from the low-hanging branches of either side.

It has been my observation that libertarians tend to be the 40-somethings, with college degrees, who don't particularly like the dems, and are still rebelling against their parents, who were probably conservatives.

Latent adolescent rebellion prevents them from embracing anything that is "absolute" and they tend to want to be unencumbered by tradition and patriotism so they can wander around the fringes of establishment, dipping the gravy and ignoring the beef.

So, save your argument for someone else, I've heard it many times, in many versions, and I ain't buying it. Have a good day.

50 posted on 02/22/2010 8:27:02 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: cricket

Bill Bennett is a moral midget.

Glen is running circles nearby him, since Bennett has missed the target completely on this one.

At one time, years ago, I liked Bill. I’ve had no use for him since 1996, when he refused to refute the idea Pat Buchanan was the next Hitler, because Pat won the New Hampshire primary that year.

Bill is more than willing to cast dispersions on others. That is not something a moral individual does.

Glen Beck had an important message to deliver. He delivered it on my behalf. Bill Bennett can’t even comprehend the need of that message.

Screw him.


51 posted on 02/22/2010 8:38:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (God, Family, Friends, Home, Town, State, the U.S., Conservatism, Free Republic & a dollar a day...)
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To: CharacterCounts

Good points CC

I’d like to say I admire both Beck and Bennett. They both make a wonderful contribution to the Conservative cause. But neither are without flaw in there analysis. Nether am I or anyone else here. I think Beck regularly fails to give enough credit to the many elected Republicans who have stood their ground against Obama and the progressive agenda over the last year. Beck is right that we “Republicans need to be better than just not sucking as much as the Democrats”. For example Gingrich had a proposal at CPAC about firing the bad teachers saving (what was it 50’000’000) in New York) and using that money to teach poor children to read and right. My reaction was, hold on Newt. How about retuning that money to the taxpayer or lowering our debt. How many programs are there currently that will teach children to read and write? The problem isn’t that were not SPENDING enough on education, it’s primarily a problem is that in many American homes parents don’t bother to supervise their children’s education. Too many parents leave it to the schools alone. Gingrich’s idea may be easier to sell to the public, because it sounds more compassionate, and it doesn’t as parents to sacrifice there time in the interest of their children, but it continues to feed the beast of big government. Mr Gingrich (who I admire) was continuing to feed the beast. That beast needs to go on a diet. That beast is killing liberty.


52 posted on 02/22/2010 9:25:50 AM PST by rising tide (Hold on, it's going to be a bumpy ride for a while.)
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To: Nick Danger

Let’s see...Republicans = GOP. Thought so. GOP Senators voted for spending increases and new expanded government during the Bush years.

Graham ran as a conservative, went to DC as our Senator and started voting like a progressive. “Compromising” the very conservative values he promised us, the SC voters he would uphold.

Yep, I was right before. When the GOP kicks out all the progressives like McCain & Graham out of the party it WILL be a great day.


53 posted on 02/22/2010 11:11:18 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: NVDave

Bennett did nothing substantial as Secretary of Education or as Drug Czar. He was a perennial top pick to run for Senate who never had the guts to face the electorate. A pompous windbag who cares more about attending the “best” cocktail parties than he ever did about conservatism. Don’t forget, Bennett didn’t officially break with the Dems until 1986 and is the brother of Clinton defender Robert Bennett. He’s all talk and no action. Never trusted the man and never will.


54 posted on 02/22/2010 11:20:37 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: TheStickman

Certainly the day you SC voters get rid of Graham it will be a Great Day. Let us hope that the AZ voters do the same to Miss Lindsey's mentor.


55 posted on 02/22/2010 11:20:52 AM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: FrankR

Well, I guess someone has to support the Huckabees , Romneys, and McCains of the GOP.


56 posted on 02/22/2010 11:37:06 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: cricket

Mr Beck is most certainly way off the reservation with his constantly claiming to be the product of having found his way to AA and parading his “recovering alcoholic” status.

AA’s Big Book says: “To show other alcoholics PRECISELY HOW WE HAVE RECOVERED is the main purpose of this book” (page xiii) And says recovered scores of other times, too. And AA also includes “anonymous” in its name — and in its tenets. That is so those sufferers of the disease who haven’t found AA yet, don’t have to look at those who trumpet their membership and think, “Hell, Man, I’d rather be drunk than be a Glenn Beck!”

“Recovering alcoholic,” meanwhile, is the invention of the fraudulent “treatment” center industry and of those statisticians who prefer we call them “psychologists.” And of those “drug and alcohol” “councilors” and “therapists” who lump the disease of Alcoholism (that has a diagnosis and recognizable symptoms) together with the consequences of bad choices and worse actions those who’ve made them and taken them prefer we call “addiction.” Yet another bullsh*t word invented by those who make their living defrauding insurance companies.

As for the “libertarian” Mr Beck’s take on any real similarities between actual Republicanism and the vast criminal enterprises that prefer we call them by their street name, the “Democratic” potty?

In my judgment Mr Recovering Beck’s a better front man for the touchy-feely health-insurance-company robbers than he is for we lovers of America’s Founding Law.

Glenn Beck - a buffoon by any other name!

PALIN/BOLTON/2012!


57 posted on 03/02/2010 3:18:36 PM PST by Brian Allen (Buraq Hussayn bin Buraq Hussayn bin Hussayn Ubambi, is to America what Pol Pot was to Cambodia)
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