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To: Brugmansian; Der_Hirnfänger

Everybody seems using straw man argument here. Want to make GOP looks bad? Throw in Dede’s name. Want to make GOP looks good? Throw in Rubio, Hayworth, and so on. IMO, GOP is both. Anyone who always see GOP as either black or white (only good or only bad) is overacting, IMO.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:27 AM PST by paudio (Are you better off today than in 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress?)
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To: paudio
Everybody seems using straw man argument here . . . Anyone who always see GOP as either black or white (only good or only bad) is overacting

That is what Beck does. He equates the GOP with Democrats. He does it everyday and went over the top at CPAC with it. Conservatives have always seen the differences among Republicans. They fought RINOs before they were called RINOs.

23 posted on 02/22/2010 3:16:51 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: paudio
-- Want to make GOP looks good? Throw in Rubio, Hayworth, and so on. --

Not so fast. Rubio and Hayworth represent a sort of dissension between competing politicians. Nothing wrong with that, per se. Now, are Rubio and Hayworth the direction of the party? Or do they threaten the party establishment? As between Crist and Rubio, which obtains more party support and favor? Between McCain and Hayworth?

That said, I agree with your general point that the GOP isn't a monolith. But other than isolated points, for example DeMint's floor speech against the Bush bailout, the GOP has been "crowing about its positive accomplishments." Feh.

Some of the founders wrote about government via party politics, and where that heads.

One way or another, business as usual will come to an end.

29 posted on 02/22/2010 3:31:42 AM PST by Cboldt
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