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At one year, Mass. healthcare plan falls short (can we even call it romneycare anymore?)
Boston Globe ^ | May 15, 2007 | Sally Pipes

Posted on 02/21/2010 12:27:14 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
You assume changes were made. You also assume that if there (and there were some), that Mitt would not still claim it a success (he does)
21 posted on 02/21/2010 1:04:08 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: jimbo123
Good, she can be one of the few that vote for him...
22 posted on 02/21/2010 1:07:29 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: SandRat
Yet after signing this POS into MA Law he thinks he’s electable as a Conservative.

I guess he figures if Americans are stupid enough to give the insane algore the popular vote, elect Clinton twice, and put a communist crypto-muslim of dubious nationality in the WH this time around he stands a fair shot.

10 years ago he would have gotten away with it, not now though.

23 posted on 02/21/2010 1:08:38 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing


24 posted on 02/21/2010 1:33:28 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

PROOF RomneyCARE AND ObamaCARE are Disasters
(and Romney is utterly clueless)

“Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.

This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).”


From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): “Before RomneyCare was enacted, estimates of the number of uninsured in
Massachusetts ranged from 372,000 to 618,000. Under the new program, about 219,000
previously uninsured residents have signed up for insurance. Of these, 133,000 are
receiving subsidized coverage, proving once again that people are all too happy to accept
something “for free,” and let others pay the bill. That is in addition to 56,000 people who
have been signed up for Medicaid. The bigger the subsidy, the faster people are signing
up. Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage.


“Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance”
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.



“Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company’s health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.”


“ Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”


“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”


“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”


“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”


“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."


"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"


“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”


“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “


"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.


"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"


"Romney’s mistreatments a sick man, as Gov. Mitt Romney meets a medical marijuana patient"

25 posted on 02/21/2010 1:36:34 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gidget7
Romneycare is a disaster, as most of us knew it would be.

I think the last estimate had the cost overrun somewhere in the neighborhood of $800 million for this fiscal year. I anticipate it will reach a billion very soon, probably around the time we have our own California-type budget coronary.

Then it will become clear to anyone with some sense of logic and reason (that excludes moonbats) that Romneycare is no different than any other socialist medicine program. Either services will be greatly reduced and rationed (particularly for those who get their insurance through the state, i.e., MassHealth) or taxes have to go up on those of us who work to pay our private insurance. Gee, wonder which option the pigs on Bacon Hill will choose?

Frankly, I say we do what another state (Tennessee?) did, and scrap the whole program.
26 posted on 02/21/2010 1:41:58 PM PST by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: LostInBayport

Not sure about TN, I do know HI scrapped it, after less than a year.


27 posted on 02/21/2010 2:06:15 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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28 posted on 02/21/2010 3:11:23 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
halfamazing, huh?

Good research from 2007.

Did your research by chance reveal this one from 2009? Romney Gives Mass. Health Reform An 'A'. (July 9, 2009)

Okay, follow me here. If Mitt, on July 9, 2009, gives it an "A" and says "It’s working like we had hoped it would work," that pretty much negates anything in 2007 or when the bill was being debated and signed. He loves it now, in its current form!

One more item of research? He loves it so much he commissioned a $30,000 portrait to highlight it as "his greatest achievement!"


The portrait depicts the governor seated at the front edge of his desk wearing his trademark business suit. Beside him is a small framed photo of his wife, Ann, and ... [wait for it] ... a copy of the health care reform law he called his greatest achievement. [note to mittbots; since this was June, 2009, this means he claims credit and praises the disaster of a healthcare plan the MASS Dems produced]

29 posted on 02/21/2010 3:26:03 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: edzo4

Does post #29 change your opinion on that at all?


30 posted on 02/21/2010 3:28:31 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Nope


31 posted on 02/21/2010 4:44:52 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Tennessee has Tenncare thanks to a demonrat...and it is a FAILURE too.

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware

32 posted on 02/21/2010 6:02:44 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you so much for your link. I knew someone around here had more info than what I was able to find.

THe last paragraph in your first link tells me all I need to know. From the article:

============The former governor declined to answer when Harding asked if health care is a right of a privilege in the United States. He did insist, however, that on a national level politicians ought to be able to create a system where every citizen has health insurance.=============

This is incredible. Incredibly dangerous. He insists that politicians ought to be able to create it? Why can’t we keep control over our own lives?

You said:

———————that pretty much negates anything in 2007 or when the bill was being debated and signed. He loves it now, in its current form!————————

I totally agree.


33 posted on 03/12/2010 3:34:25 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( "Charitable" Foundations: Automatic Teller Machines for the Left)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

You are welcome. Thank you for reading the link and using your own deductive reasoning. Not everyone does so (#31). FReeregards!


34 posted on 03/13/2010 6:20:42 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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