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EADS: USAF can buy 118 A400Ms with savings from C-130, C-5 retirements
Flightglobal ^ | 02/19/2010 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 02/20/2010 8:27:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

EADS North America has offered a plan for the US Air Force to purchase 118 Airbus A400Ms using savings from retiring most Lockheed Martin C-130Hs and all C-5As.

The EADS proposal was submitted last year to the Air Mobility Command (AMC) upon their request, says Neil F. Smith, director of A400M programme for EADS NA.

The concept proposes to stand-up about eight squadrons of A400Ms within the US mobility force structure, Smith says. "We get a very good reception" at AMC, Smith says.

EADS has been seeking to introduce the A400M in the US market for several years, arguing that the increasing size of ground vehicles has out-grown the box size of Lockheed's C-130. The A400M features a 3.96m (13ft) cabin diameter, versus the C-130 family's 2.74m-wide cargo bay.

The size difference would allow the army to load an armoured Stryker vehicle on the A400M, Smith says.

In response, a Lockheed executive challenged EADS' assumptions about the cost of the A400M, especially with the programme currently in negotiations with European governments over a reportedly $7 billion cost overrun.

"I think that's the ultimate in fuzzy math," says Jim Grant, Lockheed vice president of business development for air mobility and special operations programmes.

Despite the ongoing uncertainty about the programme's financing, EADS plans to continue making a big push in the US market. One of the programme's test aircraft could even travel to the US in early 2011 for a marketing tour, the company says.

(Excerpt) Read more at flightglobal.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a400m; aerospace; airbus; airmobilitycommand; amc; boeing; c130; cc5; eads; gates; plasticplanes; usaf
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1 posted on 02/20/2010 8:27:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Keep Dreaming Airbus and EADS


2 posted on 02/20/2010 8:33:09 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: sonofstrangelove

In this economy why would the DOD purchase any major systems from EADS?


3 posted on 02/20/2010 8:33:37 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: neodad
There is a possibility that Gates will make a purchase from EADS. I would make it from Boeing
4 posted on 02/20/2010 8:36:12 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: ICE-FLYER

I agree


5 posted on 02/20/2010 8:36:29 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Oh yea, that will go over like a lead balloon for the “Buy America” crowd. Couldn’t even agree to a US Manufactured boom and electronics on a Airbus “green” tanker


6 posted on 02/20/2010 8:37:04 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

I prefer Boeing.


7 posted on 02/20/2010 8:37:47 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Don’t the Airbus tails have a tendency to break off during stressful turns?


8 posted on 02/20/2010 8:39:43 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: rbosque

I have heard that.


9 posted on 02/20/2010 8:44:05 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

What a load of crap.You will never get the service life out of that plastic crap as you have and will with metal aircraft.Manmade global warming of the aviation industry.


10 posted on 02/20/2010 8:46:41 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
I would make it from Boeing

That's all well and good -but does Boeing actually manufacture an aircraft in that class? A heavy-hauler turbo-prop with similar specs?

And no - I am not an EADS fan by any stretch.

11 posted on 02/20/2010 8:54:38 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

All idiotic euoropean economic thinking aside, why would we want to retire C130’s and C5’s ?


12 posted on 02/20/2010 8:59:36 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

I do not know why? Those planes are in good working condition.


13 posted on 02/20/2010 9:01:05 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Retire the Herkybird? Aren’t we still buying those?


14 posted on 02/20/2010 9:03:33 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: lewislynn
All idiotic euoropean economic thinking aside, why would we want to retire C130’s and C5’s ?

If the size comparison data is accurate and the C-130 can't carry strykers, OK they have a point. But C-5s? The behemoth of the sky? dunno.

15 posted on 02/20/2010 9:03:37 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: sonofstrangelove

so in the middle of a recession and with all the crap from the ONE about creating & saving jobs, this idiot of a Defense Sec wants to outsource the Air Force requisition purchasing equipment to Europe??


16 posted on 02/20/2010 9:05:10 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: SeeSharp

C-130J Super Hercules is the latest model but has not gone into production


17 posted on 02/20/2010 9:07:27 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: NonValueAdded

We need a hundred more C-17s, not a hundred A400Ms or C-130 size cargo aircraft.


18 posted on 02/20/2010 9:08:18 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: prophetic

Gates has thrown roadblock after roadblock in front of Boeing.


19 posted on 02/20/2010 9:10:41 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

We can’t even build our own dam airplanes?

NO.


20 posted on 02/20/2010 9:12:18 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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