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To: wizard1961; pillut48; scripter; manc; DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah; xzins; P-Marlowe; ...
Do they support the COTUS?

Why don't we look at what the Founding Fathers actually thought about the sodomites:

The Founders on Homosexuality

Hate damages us. Reagan never hated.

Nobody here is talking about "hating" homosexuals. What we are unwilling to do is succumb to their immoral agenda and watch America destroyed in the process. Yes, I HATE the leftist agenda, just like President Reagan did. There is NOTHING wrong with hating an ideology, those who say otherwise are full of crap.

741 posted on 02/20/2010 2:13:45 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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745 posted on 02/20/2010 2:15:23 PM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: wagglebee

Moreover, accusations of “hate” are generally issued at us by the Left and not our own side.


747 posted on 02/20/2010 2:16:41 PM PST by xsmommy
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I sure bet Reagen would never use the crude language used here on Freeper about gays. Yeah, that IS hate and serves no purpose in bringing across a point on traditional marriage or any other conservative agenda.

You sure are quick to say nobody here is talking about ‘hating’ homosexuals, yet when post after post goes on with disgusting language describing gays or related to gays, you sure didn’t respond and say, look at the quotes in the Founding Fathers.

We can have discussions about our beliefs and political views without degenerating.


751 posted on 02/20/2010 2:19:34 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: wagglebee

“Nobody here is talking about “hating” homosexuals. “

Did you see the video?


753 posted on 02/20/2010 2:21:02 PM PST by wizard1961 (Teaper says: For 2010, let Sarah be Sarah)
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Thanks for the link, from back in the day when conservatism meant something more morally substantive, even as it yet had to progress in some ways. Below is from a man whose influenced liberals would like to remove from our laws.

In Book the Fourth, Chapter the Fifteenth, “Of Offences Against the Persons of Individuals,” Blackstone stated:

IV. WHAT has been here observed..., which ought to be the more clear in proportion as the crime is the more detestable, may be applied to another offence, of a still deeper malignity; the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast.... But it is an offence of so dark a nature...that the accusation should be clearly made out....

In what is now the most liberal State:

Massachusetts General Laws:
CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES
TITLE I.
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 272.
Section 34: Crime against nature

Whoever commits the abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with a beast, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than twenty years.

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Mass.Gen.Laws.html

May God grant repentance unto all.


772 posted on 02/20/2010 2:41:00 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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