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To: Feline_AIDS

Conservatism that does not uphold the morality of conservative Christians will end up being libertarian, which will end up being socialism or worse. And rejection of Biblical laws on sexuality is concomitant with other iniquities and foretells the demise of nation. If you want some nice state on what the war against God is cost us, see http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html


256 posted on 02/19/2010 9:53:15 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212
Conservatism that does not uphold the morality of conservative Christians will end up being libertarian, which will end up being socialism or worse.

Those dots don't connect. Libertarianism is the push for the smallest possible government with the least possible amount of power over people's right to personal business and contract. Libertarian critics point to the necessity of a certain level of government power for infrastructure and defense needs, but there is certainly no connection with socialism in any libertarian criticism - the two political philosophies are headed in diametrically opposite directions.

As for the requirement that conservative Christianity be the necessary basis for political Conservatism - even during the Founder's day, when the vast majority of religious affiliation was overwhelmingly Christian, the differences between churches and sects was often virulently argued over the accuracy of each one's fundamental truth, each truly believing the others were bound for hell, and that laws should be made to support their position. And in those days, the moral issue that was tearing churches apart in the name of "God versus political expediency" was not gays, but that of SLAVERY - so much so, that the Constitution was nearly not created over the vitriolic differences of religious, moral and political opinion.

For these reasons, the Founders based the Constitution on the immortal foundation of negative rights, and the People over the government, rather than specifying which Christian affiliation should be regarded as the backbone of the country (and the fact that that such a brilliantly Solomonic solution is ANCHORED in the Judeo-Christian religious teachings of Western Civilization IS MY POINT). The 1st Amendment, as a matter of fact, was created precisely to protect this ongoing argument between religions (and Jews and Hindus were also acknowledged as religions in that day, so the intent was not to limit it to Christians alone).

This thread has turned Freeper against Freeper, and it is a direct result of CPAC enabling the infiltration of a major conservative organization by GOProud - a gay activist group. If Freepers could take a breather, they'd see that such destructive infighting - and NOT the belief that gay activism will be accepted by conservatives - WAS GOProud's GOAL!

Such infiltration WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS IT WORKS. That's why I believe that focus on original Constitutional principles is the only effective way to fight this kind of POLITICAL sabotage under the GUISE of Christian-baiting by gays - and I believe the Founder's would agree, because it's literally how THEY handled it effectively enough to hold together and form the country.

300 posted on 02/19/2010 10:23:16 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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