Posted on 02/19/2010 7:35:34 PM PST by DesertRenegade
Ryan Sorba, from the Young Americans for Freedom organization’s California chapter, was booed off the stage tonight at CPAC, for deriding CPAC’s choice to have GOProud attend CPAC, even going so far as to say he “condemns CPAC”. Not the sort of thing one would say when invited to speak at the biggest gathering of Conservatives who look to CPAC for guidance and networking.
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G’wan. There are married women who demand abortion for no more reason than inconvenience to her career , and husband has no say in the matter even though the baby is one-half his. Misguided women indoctrinated by the Feminazi movement get away with murder because the deck is stacked in their favor. This is what is ruining the nuclear family.
You doth protest too much.
Just wondering why you came here so soon and start agitating?
Thanks, but according to liberals the story of Sodom’s destruction was a fable. Our carnal mind seeks to do so in order to stave of a guilty conscience and fear of judgment.
Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Isa 1:9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Jer 49:18 As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.
Amo 4:11 I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.
Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mat 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
In addition to what the Bible says, are extra-Biblical statements,
Historians
In summarizing the Genesis 19 account, the Jewish historian Josephus stated: “About this time the Sodomites grew proud, on account of their riches and great wealth; they became unjust towards men, and impious towards God, in so much that they did not call to mind the advantages they received from him: they hated strangers, and abused themselves with Sodomitical practices” “Now when the Sodomites saw the young men to be of beautiful countenances, and this to an extraordinary degree, and that they took up their lodgings with Lot, they resolved themselves to enjoy these beautiful boys by force and violence” (’’Antiquities’’ 1.11.1 — circa A.D. 96).
Early commentators
The famous Philo of Alexandria (c. 20 BC to AD 50), famous Jewish philosopher, theologian, and a contemporary of Jesus and Paul, described Sodom and its people.
The country of the Sodomites was a district of the land of Canaan, which the Syrians afterwards called Palestine, a country full of innumerable iniquities, and especially of gluttony and debauchery, and all the great and numerous pleasures of other kinds which have been built up by men as a fortress, on which account it had been already condemned by the Judge of the whole world. (134) And the cause of its excessive and immoderate intemperance was the unlimited abundance of supplies of all kinds which its inhabitants enjoyed.
As men, being unable to bear discreetly a satiety of these things, get restive like cattle, and become stiff-necked, and discard the laws of nature, pursuing a great and intemperate indulgence of gluttony, and drinking, and unlawful connections; for not only did they go mad after women, and defile the marriage bed of others, but also those who were men lusted after one another, doing unseemly things, and not regarding or respecting their common nature, and though eager for children, they were convicted by having only an abortive offspring; but the conviction produced no advantage, since they were overcome by violent desire; (136) and so, by degrees, the men became accustomed to be treated like women, and in this way engendered among themselves the disease of females, and intolerable evil; for they not only, as to effeminacy and delicacy, became like women in their persons, but they made also their souls most ignoble, corrupting in this way the whole race of man, as far as depended on them. Philo, On Abraham, 133b-136a
Methodius, bishop of Olympus and Patara (AD 260-312).
But we do not say so of that mixture that is contrary to nature, or of any unlawful practice; for such are enmity to God. For the sin of Sodom is contrary to nature, as is also that with brute beasts. But adultery and fornication are against the law; the one whereof is impiety, the other injustice, and, in a word, no other than a great sin. But neither sort of them is without its punishment in its own proper nature. For the practicers of one sort attempt the dissolution of the world, and endeavor to make the natural course of things to change for one that is unnatural; but those of the second son — the adulterers — are unjust by corrupting others’ marriages, and dividing into two what God hath made one, rendering the children suspected, and exposing the true husband to the snares of others. And fornication is the destruction of one’s own flesh, not being made use of for the procreation of children, but entirely for the sake of pleasure, which is a mark of incontinency, and not a sign of virtue. All these things are forbidden by the laws; for thus say the oracles: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. For such a one is accursed, and ye shall stone them with stones: they have wrought abomination. (Commentary on the sin of Sodom)
Basil, archbishop of Caesarea in Cappadocia (circa AD 330-379).
They who have committed sodomy with men or brutes, murderers, wizards, adulterers, and idolaters, have been thought worthy of the same punishment; therefore observe the same method with these which you do with others. We ought not to make any doubt of receiving those who have repented thirty years for the uncleanness which they committed through ignorance; for their ignorance pleads their pardon, and their willingness in confessing it; therefore command them to be forthwith received, especially if they have tears to prevail on your tenderness, and have [since their lapse] led such a life as to deserve your compassion. (first canonical epistle)
John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople (AD 347-407),
All these affections then were vile, but chiefly the mad lust after males; for the soul is more the sufferer in sins, and more dishonored, than the body in diseases. But behold how here too, as in the case of the doctrines, he deprives them of excuse, by saying of the women, that “’they changed the natural use.” For no one, he means, can say that it was by being hindered of legitimate intercourse that they came to this pass, or that it was from having no means to fulfill their desire that they were driven into this monstrous insaneness. For the changing implies possession. Which also when discoursing upon the doctrines he said, “They changed the truth of God for a lie.” And with regard to the men again, he shows the same thing by saying, “Leaving the natural use of the woman.” …For genuine pleasure is that which is according to nature. But when God hath left one, then all things are turned upside down. And thus not only was their doctrine Satanical, but their life too was diabolical. (Commentary on Romans 1:26-27)
Augustine of Hippo (AD 354-430),
“Can it ever, at any time or place, be unrighteous for a man to love God with all his heart, with all his soul, and with all his mind; and his neighbor as himself? Similarly, offenses against nature are everywhere and at all times to be held in detestation and should be punished. Such offenses, for example, were those of the Sodomites; and, even if all nations should commit them, they would all be judged guilty of the same crime by the divine law, which has not made men so that they should ever abuse one another in that way. For the fellowship that should be between God and us is violated whenever that nature of which he is the author is polluted by perverted lust.” (Confessions. Commenting on the story of Sodom from Genesis 19)
Alsop, John Calvin, Protestant reformer and theologian (1509-1564), John Wesley, Protestant evangelist, theologian and founder of Methodism (1703-1791), likewise attributed the specific sin of Sodom to being homosexual relations. (http://bibleprobe.com/earlyteach.htm)
Pseudepigrapha
The apocryphal Testament of Benjamin, part of Books of Twelve Patriarchs (circa 2nd century BC) warned in regard to Sodom,
“that ye shall commit fornication with the fornication of Sodom,” (Concerning a Pure Mind, 9:1; http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.iii.xiv.html )
Anther book within the same collection, the Testament of Naphtali, states,
“But ye shall not be so, my children, recognizing in the firmament, in the earth, and in the sea, and in all created things, the Lord who made all things, that ye become not as Sodom, which changed the order of nature.” (3.5.) (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.iii.x.html)
The Book of the Secrets of Enoch (Slavonic Apocalypse of) Enoch, warned:
“And those men said to me: This place, O Enoch, is prepared for those who dishonour God, who on earth practise sin against nature, which is child-corruption after the ‘’sodomitic fashion’’, magic-making, enchantments and devilish witchcrafts, and who boast of their wicked deeds, stealing, lies, calumnies, envy, rancour, fornication, murder, ....” (10:4; in J recension Ch. I.118); Late 1st cent. AD.; http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe117.htm)
The Old Testament apocrypha, Testament of Isaac. Probably originally from Egyptian Judaism, but shows pronounced Christian elements. “The angel said to me, ‘Look at the bottom to observe those whom you see at the lowest depth. They are the ones who have committed the sin of Sodom; truly, they were due a drastic punishment.” (5.27. Ch. I.909; Second century AD) (http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/SODOMY.TXT)
Seems at least one other person saw the humor connection with me (with my FeeRepublic screen name) responding to that...
And what's up with you Little Jeremiah? Got a Transsexual fixation?...
Looks like you “cut and paste” all the right words ...
Lots of emotion, lots of agitating. Well, time will tell who you really are.
Hey-hey Hippie! I’m no kid & am a conservative since the ‘70s when you were probably regrouping with your radical buddies after you tore up the campuses and burned the flag, cursed & spit on our Vietnam soldiers coming home. What we have today is the result of everything that went on in the Stupid Sixties.
You’re the provocateur. Strawman arguments.
Nice try...fell flat.
got all the right words and phrases again...still agitating..well, with any luck you might get another poster to bite, I doubt it.
Ahhh...where’d you learn “Provocateur”? ....sure sounds like a Lefty word to me..., I think I’ll wait for “proletarian”.
BTW..”strawman arguments” did not logically fit our discussion.
Nice try though.
Look out...”Hall Monitor “ out..!
It's all about context, my FRiend, context, yes I agree, the practices of homosexuals are ‘trash’ and ‘offensive’ as well they should be, unfortunately many people are being lulled into thinking that these people are normal. How can you talk about trashy people without exposing what makes then trashy? If you're offended by their sex practices then you should be offended by THEM. And I assure you DU would never discuss the sexual practices of the degenerate homo. It's not PC.
Once you find out the perverse nature of their sexual practices that occur not just in their bedrooms, but in our public parks, our public beaches, our public bathrooms, public gyms, at truckstops, bookstores and movie arcades, their bathhouses, their bars, their clubs, and bring them out into the Light for all to see, the dung these people represent can then be exposed for what it is and their agenda can be stripped of the the trappings of normality they continually try to dress it up in.
Homosexuality is a scourge and cancer on our society and an abominable mental disease, as such this deviant sexual condition deserves NO respect. I went into nowhere near the repulsive details I could have gone into in describing their many perverse practices, yet you're over-reacting as if I had. Why? I think trying to make me the problem instead of them is ridiculous and not one that I'm buying, sorry.
I don’t have a transsexual fixation, you do.
Exactly.
As I noted before, it’s akin to the horror pro-abortionists feel when faced with descriptions or photos of actual abortions.
The killing of the unborn - fine.
Describing or showing photos - disgusting.
Performing disgusting, unnatural, unhealthy “sex” acts in anyhwhere and everywhere and promoting them - fine.
Describing them - disgusting.
Great post!
Is that your little friend?
Wow! They come in pairs, another great post.
It was a bad decision to allow the homosexual group
to openly participate. Always trying to infiltrate
and undermine. I will not be supporting CPAC in the
future.
Lepers were innocent victims of a horrible disease.
Not the case with aids patients.
That is the way the left wins. They shout down anyone who disagrees and use the government to force us to associate with and accept and praise them. They are not happy just to be tolerated. Homosexuals know that if they allow the debate to go the way of the global warming debate where open and honest questions are asked and their dogma shown not to be based in science or reason but in an egocentric degenerate lifestyle based more on abuse than love that they will lose.
It is a pity we don’t have more brave individuals like Ryan Sorba. Most just don’t want to deal with it but they will. They don’t realize that they wont be able to hide from it because the gay activists are never satisfied. The march for them never ends until every one who dares disagree with them and the behavior is silenced. Someday those who are silent today will find their children being taught deviant sexual behavior against what desire and they will find themselves with no freedom to disagree. They will find no escape whether they be a child, parent, church man, soldier, reasoned scientist, or skeptical layman, they will find themselves in a prison built of falsehoods and lies and it won’t end with the disease ridden deviant behavior that is homosexuality.
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