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To: OldDeckHand
Even if the GOP wrote into its platform a celebration of homosexual marriage and even performed one at the convention, we still wouldn't get any more of the homo vote than we get now

This is just completely untrue. Lots of gay men are conservatively inclined on economic questions, and on a surprising measure of social questions, as well. Gay men who are educated and successful are just as likely to have a problem with taxes and regulation as anyone else. Every gay man and lesbian knows precisely where he would stand in the Caliphate and while some are sufficiently blinded by ideology not to recognize, many do manage to recognize that Western victory in the War on Terror is critical to their basic self interest.

Are we ever going to get the majority of gay vote? Probably not, just like legacy and cultural reasons keep up from getting the majority of Jewish vote or the Irish Catholic vote even though in some sense we "should." However, we are far more likely to get better minorities among gay voters than we are among African American or Hispanics or unmarried women, who have much stronger pragmatic ties to Democrats than gays do.

(This is to say nothing about the simple fact that a whole heck of a lot of the Republican and Conservative activists, office holders, and advisers you think are straight are, in fact, gay men of some greater or lesser degree of closeting.)

All of this said, though, I'd still think that we need to spend more energy wondering why we are losing the Asian vote, which is going to be a disaster of tremendous proportions for us if not reversed, given the increasing percentage of Asians in the population and the fact that Asians are going to comprise a very sizable share of the economic and intellectual elite of this country in not very long at all.
125 posted on 02/20/2010 8:13:15 AM PST by only1percent
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To: only1percent
"This is just completely untrue. Lots of gay men are conservatively inclined on economic questions, and on a surprising measure of social questions, as well. "

For the purposes of discussion only, let's stipulate that everything you've said is entirely true. I'll go back to something I said in a earlier post on this thread. Gay marriage is about virtually everything other than marriage.

The legislative initiatives that I've seen proposing legalizing gay marriage have been dozens of pages long, sometimes hundreds of pages long. You have to ask yourself, "why in the world would a law that gives homosexuals the same marriage "rights" as heterosexuals have to be hundreds of pages long?". This is especially troubling considering the law that gives all citizens the right to speak freely without reprisal from the government is only a paragraph, just two sentences or so.

Gay marriage advocacy is about so much more than just the right of two men or two women to marry; It's about the broader public accepting the homosexuality lifestyle and codifying that acceptances into statutory law. Conservatives, nor Republicans, shouldn't be party to such a movement, IMHO.

128 posted on 02/20/2010 8:28:58 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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