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To: SeekAndFind

“Not sure about that. You have your own Karma as well, and if you want to reincarnate to a higher state, you have to perform good deeds. Helping the beggar is a good deed that will result in good Karma for you.”

Actually, your harming him by perpetuating his suffering in the next life, and that’s not going to bring you “good karma.”


10 posted on 02/19/2010 8:56:05 AM PST by Arcy
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To: Arcy
“Not sure about that. You have your own Karma as well, and if you want to reincarnate to a higher state, you have to perform good deeds. Helping the beggar is a good deed that will result in good Karma for you.”

Actually, your harming him by perpetuating his suffering in the next life, and that’s not going to bring you “good karma.”

Intellgent people call that collision of mutually canceling imperatives 'cognitive dissonance'. I wonder if Tiger has ever meditated on that?

17 posted on 02/19/2010 9:07:51 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (Dear Leader: you have two ears and one mouth. Start using them in proportion.)
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To: Arcy

I believe in Karma so when I do bad things to people its because they had it coming.


29 posted on 02/19/2010 9:20:37 AM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Arcy

The Bhagavad-Gita.

The Harvard Classics. 1909–14.

Chapter XII

ARJUNA:

LORD! of the men who serve Thee—true in heart—
As God revealed; and of the men who serve,
Worshipping Thee Unrevealed, Unbodied, far,
Which take the better way of faith and life?

KRISHNA:

Whoever serve Me—as I show Myself—

5

Constantly true, in full devotion fixed,
These hold I very holy. But who serve—
Worshipping Me The One, The Invisible,
The Unrevealed, Unnamed, Unthinkable,
Uttermost, All-pervading, Highest, Sure—

10

Who thus adore Me, mastering their sense,
Of one set mind to all, glad in all good,
These blessed souls come unto Me.
Yet, hard
The travail is for whoso bend their minds

15

To reach th’ Unmanifest. That viewless path
Shall scarce be trod by man bearing his flesh!
But whereso any doeth all his deeds,
Renouncing self in Me, full of Me, fixed
To serve only the Highest, night and day

20

Musing on Me—him will I swiftly lift
Forth from life’s ocean of distress and death
Whose soul clings fast to Me. Cling thou to Me!
Clasp Me with heart and mind! so shalt thou dwell
Surely with Me on high. But if thy thought

25

Droops from such height; if thou be’st weak to set
Body and soul upon Me constantly,
Despair not! give Me lower service! seek
To read Me, worshipping with steadfast will;
And, if thou canst not worship steadfastly,

30

Work for Me, toil in works pleasing to Me!
For he that laboreth right for love of Me
Shall finally attain! But, if in this
Thy faint heart fails, bring Me thy failure! find
Refuge in Me! let fruits of labor go,

35

Renouncing all for Me, with lowliest heart,
So shalt thou come; for, though to know is more
Than diligence, yet worship better is
Than knowing, and renouncing better still
Near to renunciation—very near—

40

Dwelleth Eternal Peace!
Who hateth nought
Of all which lives, living himself benign,
Compassionate, from arrogance exempt,
Exempt from love of self, unchangeable

45

By good or ill; patient, contented, firm
In faith, mastering himself, true to his word,
Seeking Me, heart and soul; vowed unto Me,—
That man I love! Who troubleth not his kind,
And is not troubled by them; clear of wrath,

50

Living too high for gladness, grief, or fear,
That man I love! Who, dwelling quiet-eyed,

Stainless, serene, well-balanced, unperplexed,
Working with Me, yet from all works detached,
That man I love! Who, fixed in faith on Me,

55

Dotes upon none, scorns none; rejoices not,
And grieves not, letting good and evil hap
Light when it will, and when it will depart,
That man I love! Who, unto friend and foe
Keeping an equal heart, with equal mind

60

Bears shame and glory, with an equal peace
Takes heat and cold, pleasure and pain; abides
Quit of desires, hears praise or calumny
In passionless restraint, unmoved by each,
Linked by no ties to earth, steadfast in Me,

65

That man I love! But most of all I love
Those happy ones to whom ’tis life to live
In single fervid faith and love unseeing,
Eating the blessèd Amrit of my Being!

Here endeth Chapter XII. of the Bhagavad-Gîtâ,
entitled “Bhakityôgô,” or “The Book of
the Religion of Faith”.


38 posted on 02/19/2010 9:30:11 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Arcy
Actually, your harming him by perpetuating his suffering in the next life, and that’s not going to bring you “good karma.”

This is so confusing... Is helping people in need good or bad Karma ? Are there any rules you can follow ?
48 posted on 02/19/2010 9:49:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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