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To: sonofstrangelove
The PAK-FA may be a game changer, but given the Russian track record for military projects, I am not anywhere near convinced they are going to have deployable birds anywhere near as fast as they are planning.

Let's not forget another Russian specialty -- bluff! They were never as strong as they were made out to be during the Cold War. They rattled sabers, growled and made faces, and often times we and our allies backed down.

When the Cold War ended, a lot of people were chagrined about how gullible we were.

All they have right now is a prototype that has made two flights. OK, the airframe works. Nothing is known about how stealthy it's going to be, how reliable the avionics are going to be, how expensive the bird is going to be, etc., etc., etc...

It's too early to get wee-weed up about things. Although I do believe keeping the F-22 in production would be prudent.

4 posted on 02/18/2010 2:24:45 AM PST by Ronin
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To: Ronin

I agree with you


5 posted on 02/18/2010 2:25:47 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Ronin
All they have right now is a prototype that has made two flights.

Akin to you building a kit car or home-built aircraft in your garage. Ya you can build a one off, fly it, but then truly test fly it, but now enter serial production with suppliers, material certs, the processes held too and the parts inspected to print, then assemble and test.

That is where the rubber meets the road and with the Ruskie's track record on their engines, ya it might work if we gave them some Pratt F100-220's other than that, you maybe spot on. This maybe another situation like when we thought the MIG-25 Foxbat was unobtainium, and it turned out to be a lead sled...

11 posted on 02/18/2010 3:28:19 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: Ronin

“All they have right now is a prototype that has made two flights. OK, the airframe works. Nothing is known about how stealthy it’s going to be, how reliable the avionics are going to be, how expensive the bird is going to be, etc., etc., etc...”

Yes. To use the cliche, “the devil is in the details”. Two prototypes does not make an effective air force. There are still tons and tons of expensive engineering and manufacturing technologies that have to be developed and optimized before any of these will be rolling off the assembly line.


15 posted on 02/18/2010 4:19:20 AM PST by Londo Molari
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