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To: meandog
1. Bush was a Navy pilot. There was a reason for the uniform. He flew the plane.

2. Same answer as #1. The Commander in Chief clearly had fun flying the jet to the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln. Of course he could have flown a helicopter, but he loves to fly (as jet pilots do).

I notice there's a (small) cabal of Bush haters on this forum who keep blaming Bush for Obama. It's not historically accurate. It's based on emotions and not fact.

FACT - McCain was a very, very bad candidate who campaigned more against Bush than he did against Obama
FACT - the incessant media lies over 8 years, particularly about our mission in Iraq, beat down the President's approval numbers and resulted in a faux "Bush fatigue" (They also lied about the Mission Accomplished sign, and bashed the President for his "stunt" exactly as you just did. You and the left are on the same page quite often, aren't you?)
FACT - the media was slobbering over Obama, lying about him, covering up his sordid radical past
FACT - a whole lot of young'ns and some older folks had a whole lot of white guilt and voted for the black guy to assuage it.
FACT - there was a Democrat caused, suspicious financial collapse that was falsely blamed on Bush and McCain acted clueless about what to do
FACT - Obama was the cool guy, the American Idol candidate, and he succeeded in convincing a lot of young people to vote for him, even if they weren't leftists.

Those are just a few of the reasons we got a radical Marxist traitor in the White House.

Blaming Bush for it is baseless outside of personal feelings.

Now - if you get off your bogus Bush-is-the-devil kick here, maybe we can work together and get rid of the Marxist.

How about it?

91 posted on 02/19/2010 7:24:37 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: meandog
I left out a BIG fact......

Obama lied in every speech, in every debate, in every appearance, about what he was going to do, and fooled a lot of independents into thinking he was a good guy who wanted to be 'non-partisan.'

None of those independents now support him.

Not Bush's fault meandog. The facts don't support your feelings.

92 posted on 02/19/2010 7:28:12 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

“1. Bush was a Navy pilot. There was a reason for the uniform. He flew the plane.”

GWB was never a Naval Aviator. Stop lying.

“Of course he could have flown a helicopter, but he loves to fly (as jet pilots do).”

He’s helicopter rated now? When did that happen?

“Now - if you get off your bogus Bush-is-the-devil kick here, maybe we can work together and get rid of the Marxist.”

I don’t think any conservative wants to work with a liberal like you.


93 posted on 02/19/2010 7:49:22 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: meandog
Correction - Bush - Air National Guard pilot -


96 posted on 02/19/2010 8:12:49 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan; meandog
I notice there's a (small) cabal of Bush haters on this forum who keep blaming Bush for Obama. It's not historically accurate. It's based on emotions and not fact.

Whose signature is on the law authorizing TARP?

Oh, wait, that's George W. Bush's signature!

100 posted on 02/19/2010 12:24:53 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: ohioWfan; Favor Center; All
1. Bush was a Navy pilot. There was a reason for the uniform. He flew the plane.

You're only partially correct here. GWB was indeed a jet pilot, however he was in the Texas Air National Guard and flew an F-102 interceptor pilot, by some accounts a dangerous plane to fly requiring superior pilot skills and obviously, GWB had them. In the event of a nuclear war with the Soviets during that time period, GWB would have been one of many pilots tasked with intercepting and shooting down incoming Soviet bombers, a mission which could very well have been 'one way' only. I believe you may be confusing GWB's TANG service with his Daddy's military service during World War II, i.e., GHWB was indeed a naval aviator.

2. Same answer as #1. The Commander in Chief clearly had fun flying the jet to the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln. Of course he could have flown a helicopter, but he loves to fly (as jet pilots do).

I am unaware of GWB having been certified for chopper operations, but that is beside the point. He had all the qualifications to fly to the Lincoln, and by the accounts of the crew on board that S3B Viking, he was steady as a rock.

I notice there's a (small) cabal of Bush haters on this forum who keep blaming Bush for Obama. It's not historically accurate. It's based on emotions and not fact.

The fact is, Bush had every opportunity in the world to defuse the incoming 0bamanation before Election Day 2008. This is one of his political faults in that he never effectively defended himself or his administration policies. You went on to mention the 'incessant media lies' and you are historically correct: the media was on a 24/7 jihad against GWB, but he *never* responded appropriately or proportionally. That is why those lies resonated so well, there was little more than silence coming from the Bush Administration.

FACT - McCain was a very, very bad candidate who campaigned more against Bush than he did against Obama FACT - the incessant media lies over 8 years, particularly about our mission in Iraq, beat down the President's approval numbers and resulted in a faux "Bush fatigue"

I need a drink, I'm actually agreeing with you.

(They also lied about the Mission Accomplished sign, and bashed the President for his "stunt" exactly as you just did. You and the left are on the same page quite often, aren't you?)

I can't speak for Favor Center but you are 100 percent correct about the 'Mission Accomplished' banner, it was never meant to represent that the liberation of Iraq was finished nor 'accomplished', it referred to, and ONLY to, the specific mission of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, whose crew was returning triumphantly and if I'm not mistaken, with few or no casualties. The lamestream media and the America-hating left twisted that banner to serve their own agenda and anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that (or should know).

FACT - the media was slobbering over Obama, lying about him, covering up his sordid radical past
FACT - a whole lot of young'ns and some older folks had a whole lot of white guilt and voted for the black guy to assuage it.


I need another drink.

FACT - there was a Democrat caused, suspicious financial collapse that was falsely blamed on Bush and McCain acted clueless about what to do

It is difficult if not impossible to take the position that the financial crisis we saw unfolding in late 2008 was NOT partially due to the Bush Administration policies of the past eight years. It is no secret that GWB spent money like water, didn't even veto ANY bill until 2006, and that is a matter of public record. It is also a FACT that the Bush Administration presided over the largest expansion of government power in American history, and in a free market, the more the government asserts itself and seeks greater influence and control, the more likely that businesses, markets, stocks, commodities, etc., are going to suffer as will the consumer. Over 70 years of Soviet centralized planning in the old U.S.S.R. proves that heavy handed government control results in nothing but trouble. GWB cannot be held blameless for the economic debacle that Comrade 0bama exploited and seized every advantage (economic and political) possible.

FACT - Obama was the cool guy, the American Idol candidate, and he succeeded in convincing a lot of young people to vote for him, even if they weren't leftists.

Don't forget vote fraud. Those ACORN and SEIU thugs were not showing up at polling places to sell lemonade for the local 4H club.

Those are just a few of the reasons we got a radical Marxist traitor in the White House. Blaming Bush for it is baseless outside of personal feelings.

George W. Bush could have done one helluva lot more to prevent that Marxist traitor you speak of from getting to the White House but he was still trying to "change the tone in Washington" up until the very day he left Office.
102 posted on 02/19/2010 12:45:33 PM PST by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: ohioWfan
1. Bush was a Navy pilot. There was a reason for the uniform. He flew the plane.

I didn't catch this one before but for your information Bush didn't fly the plane. He was a passenger. Bush, an F-101 Air Guard pilot back in the 60s, wouldn't be qualified to takeoff and land even in a VFR-rated ultralight under FAA regs stipulating current air hour competence much less an AS-3 attack aircraft on to the deck of an aircraft carrier (although he might have taken a turn or two for a few minutes at the controls, under supervision of the pilot naturally). BTW, I am a former pilot (Piper Cherokee)

103 posted on 02/19/2010 12:48:07 PM PST by meandog (OWEbummercare: "Arbeit Macht Frei!")
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