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To: myself6
The results are often times the same but the justifications are entirely different.

I disagree. To my mind, the justification is exactly the same, i.e, this social order/government is no longer working for us. What's different is the process. Secession is an inherently legalistic process, which means that it can only take place within the structure of the laws of the government. Revolution ignores the laws and rolls the dice. Win and the laws no longer apply. Lose and face the consequences.

As for the threat of violence the existing “order” hangs over our heads... heh... If thats the cost of freedom, then so be it.

Exactly. But at least your ancestors rolled the dice. I don't see anyone today even starting to try to pick them up, despite a lot of bluster about burning our houses down.

262 posted on 02/19/2010 9:03:41 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"Secession is an inherently legalistic process, which means that it can only take place within the structure of the laws of the government."

This is an incorrect analysis. Secession simply is, in this case, a breaking of the political bonds which binds people. There is a revolutionary process that takes place to create an environment compatible with secession, but that is primarily in the hearts and minds of the people. That revolution is WELL underway my friend.

Secession is: "I hate everything about you. I am leaving and unless you want to kill me over this, its over. your free to live your life how ever you want without me".

Revolutionary war is: "I hate everything about you and I am going to force us to live together but this time under MY rules. That is, if I don't decide to kill you"

The justification for each is very different. Its all about what your goal is and what people will agree to do.

263 posted on 02/19/2010 10:16:46 AM PST by myself6
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