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To: Palter; All
I don't care what some black robed idiot says. The constitution tells us we have the right to change governments if the one we are living under becomes too onerous to tolerate. Read it for yourself. That part of the constitution is what gives us the right to secede, regardless if there is no article that says specifically we can "secede".

The preamble says in effect that humans have the right to choose their government, that means if we find we are being enslaved we can throw off the shackles, if the throwing off is peaceful, that would be secession, if it is violent, that is revolution.

The war between the states is an example of a non-peaceful secession, even though the confederate states peacefully seceded the Union wouldn't allow it, therefore there was a bloddy conflict.

The Union cannot force the states to stay in the Union of the people don't want to unless they use force. It may work out slightly differently this time around.

BTW, even without a constitution, people have the God given right to choose their government, that includes Americans.

113 posted on 02/17/2010 12:24:00 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Correct to post 113. bloddy conflict = bloody conflict.


114 posted on 02/17/2010 12:25:11 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59
Just as the colonies didn't have the "right" to leave Britain, maybe there is no "right" to secede.

But it doesn't matter.

If you decide to leave and have the power to back it up, the law doesn't mean a whole lot.

120 posted on 02/17/2010 12:29:17 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: calex59
"Preamble Note We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

What preamble you reading? Perhaps the Declaration of Independence?

153 posted on 02/17/2010 1:54:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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