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To: yarddog

But these laws are written specifically to avoid the conflict. No commerce provisions apply. These firearms are manufactured, sold and used within the state and only be state citizens.


35 posted on 02/16/2010 7:09:02 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

I know and agree with you but during the Civil Rights era of the 60’s the commerce clause was stretched to cover absolutely everything. They will simply say the raw materials etc. came from interstate commerce, or maybe that the guns may eventually be sold interstate.

That is why I said I agree with the laws but those who have the power have made the law what they want it to be.


41 posted on 02/16/2010 7:14:15 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Jeff Head
No commerce provisions apply. These firearms are manufactured, sold and used within the state and only be state citizens.

The Raich case, which our drug warriors cheered, nullified that argument in the eyes of fedgov. Justice Thomas is the only remaining SC justice who dissented:

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

Justice Thomas, dissenting in Raich

72 posted on 02/16/2010 8:03:47 PM PST by Ken H (Debt free is the way to be)
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To: Jeff Head
FYI Jeff: This is the most frequently referenced case when what would normally be a no-brainer identifying INTRA-state activities: Wickard v. Filburn

Apparently after a good deal of choking, kneading and stretching of the commerce clause, and some threats from FDR, the SCOTUS basically decided that a farmer growing wheat that would NEVER leave the farm and intended solely for his family's consumption, was covered by the commerce clause.

85 posted on 02/16/2010 8:42:24 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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