The simple distinction that I make is that revolution is a concept associated with the Declaration while secession is a Constitutional concept. But there is no Constitutional provision for the president to recognize either revolution or secession. What Constitutional authority did Lincoln have to recognize secession? All Lincoln saw in the document was that he had to uphold the supreme law of the land, collect the duties, deliver the mail and suppress any rebellion that prevented from carrying out the mandated tasks. Lincoln could do nothing else and still be true to his oath of office.
“The simple distinction that I make is that revolution is a concept associated with the Declaration while secession is a Constitutional concept. But there is no Constitutional provision for the president to recognize either revolution or secession.”
1: If secession were a Constitutional consept, rather then an inalienable right, then why is there no provision in the constitution for Secession or revolution?
Why then does the 9th amendment say: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”?
Why then does the 10th amendment say: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Colonel Kangaroo the very definition of our Federal Constitution precludes anything NOT in that Federal Constitution as being regarded as a constitutional consent.
This is a matter so integral and important to the nature of our Constitution that they adopted not one but two separate commandments to reinforce it!
The matter of revolution and secession is not in the constitution for a good reason, its not within the power or rights of the Federal government to deny, protect, or otherwise regulate them!
2: Tell me if you associated revolution with that of the Deceleration of independents tell me how it is that theses Decelerations and/or Ordinances are any different?
http://aescir.net/edu/session.htm
Further tell me how it is that the laws of nature or Natures God, puts EITHER you OR Lincoln into a position to make that judgment of significant difference period?
I Ask this because the United States Constitution sure as heck doesn’t empower you or the Federal government to make that judgment, as you yourself pointed out It doesn’t even mention either of them, quite deliberately as I pointed out.
I’m sorry Colonel Kangaroo, but your operating here from a position of either grave arrogances or grave ignorance of the extent of what happen.
You have no more right to judge the decelerations by the Southern States in secession as at all significantly different then the Deceleration of independents, and thus their secession as at all different then what you call a Revolution in the north.
They listed grievances, they listed reasons, they declared their rights, and their choice to of independents.
Either Lincoln was dead wrong, in what he did, or King George was right and the 13 colony’s were dead wrong in what they did in the so called “American Revolution” there is no significant difference here. The right of secession/revolution is either inalienable or its not.