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To: Bigun
The fallacious notion that "The Union is older than the States and in fact created them as States. The Union, and not themselves separately, procured their independence and their liberty. [T]he Union threw off their old dependence for them and made them States, such as they are." is the essence of Lincoln's, and your, sophistry and I know that you will argue it forever but you will STILL be wrong!

Because you say so. Thanks for clearing that up.

210 posted on 02/16/2010 11:42:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Do you have any idea who St. George Tucker was or the import of his work that I linked to in #201?

I think not so I will presume to inform you a little on the subject! That work, published in 1803, was a textbook in virtually EVERY law school in the country prior to the late 1850's and as such helped shape the understanding of everyone who studied it which would be every legal scholar for generations after it's publication. It happens to agree with me and a great many others who can separate the Forrest from the trees!

212 posted on 02/16/2010 11:57:38 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Bigun: The fallacious notion that "The Union is older than the States and in fact created them as States. The Union, and not themselves separately, procured their independence and their liberty. [T]he Union threw off their old dependence for them and made them States, such as they are." is the essence of Lincoln's, and your, sophistry and I know that you will argue it forever but you will STILL be wrong!

N-S: Because you say so. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thanks for proving my point: 'Because you say so' is definitely the functional equivalent of 'If you say so' - or would you disagree with that simple fact, as well?

;>)

258 posted on 02/16/2010 7:41:23 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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