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To: The Sons of Liberty
We have not been successful in any war since WWII and will not win in the ME with these INSAANE ROE. Korea was a truce, a stalemate, UN-sponsored, we played by their rules. We lost, but it was called a 'truce'. Vietnam: Our men fought not only the Communist NV but the great numbers of peasants forced into fighting or who volunteered to join the enemy. LBJ, MacNamara, & the JCF decided they knew more than the generals on the ground over there, or the troops. Nixon & Kissinger, same. They lost us the war; our guys were winning until Nixon caved in to rabble rousers and leftists here at home. 58,000 American men died and 2.5 million SE Asians were slaughtered by Pol Pot.

These wars now : I've been told the ROE are worse than ever, and one difference is the apparent massive brainwashing undergone by the generals--McCrystal, for example. Remember that the USS Cole was unarmed! Look how long ago that was, yet Pres. Klinton made no changes, he was as scornful of the military as the faker in the WH today. Both Bush Sr and his son? Certainly not scornful, but something seriously lacking in either man or they would have demanded change.

Incidentally, Klinton's War (Kosovo) was absolute slaughter of Christians using our planes disguised as "NATO". Klinton should have been hanged for war crimes.

35 posted on 02/15/2010 8:50:18 PM PST by molybdenum ((Yes I posted this masterpeace))
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To: molybdenum

“our guys were winning until Nixon caved in to rabble rousers and leftists here at home.”

Nixon was elected on a promise of Peace with Honor. His Vietnamization program achieved just that.

The Viet Cong were destroyed as a significant force in our response to the Tet attack in early 68.

When the Watergate flimflam was perpetrated by the left, the South Vietnamese Army had demonstrated their ability to defeat the north on the battlefield, and almost all our troops were out of the country.

South Vietnam could have protected itself with the same support that Red China and the Sovs were giving to the north. When we pulled our troops out, we promised them our support.

Peace with Honor in Vietnam would have been a ghastly defeat for the left everywhere. Watergate was as much about that as it was any two-bit burglary.

As soon as Nixon was hamstrung, Kennedy and the rest of the leftist slime cut off funding for support to South Vietnam.

That’s where South Vietnam was lost, not on the battlefield, and not by Nixon.


43 posted on 02/16/2010 12:18:02 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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