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To: Danae
Please, read the law, not the dreams of some foolish man.

There are two kinds of citizens, Citizens at the moment of birth, (Natural Born) and those made citizens later by opperation of law and application, persons “Naturalized.”

A natural born citizen is described in USC 8, sec 1401.

Trying to restrict the Presidency to only those born physically in the US would be a huge mistake. What of the mother were traveling and had a premature delivery. What about children born overseas on US military bases, what about kids born off-post in Europe, what about a child born on a fireign-flagged ship on a voyage from New York to Miami?

“Natural born” means a citizen naturally at the moment of birth, not naturalized later. It does not signify born physically in the US.

To think otherwise is foolish and to ignore the law.

38 posted on 02/17/2010 3:57:12 PM PST by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: MindBender26

What foolish man?

I am not basing my opinion on Apuzzo or Donofrio or anyone else. I base it on my own readings and research.

I will often look at the work of others, which leads me to other research and other sources (original) and I go from there. I don’t spout the talking points of someone else. I am a pretty damn good researcher in my own right.

It is MY conclusion that Natural Born Citizen is: A person who was born to two parents who were citizens at that birth, and born on the soil of our territory.

Certainly your half hearted attempts to disprove that have failed. The ONLY source that is going to disprove me is SCOTUS.

They do not have a case before them. YET. When that happens, I feel certain what the outcome will be. The Same as what I stated above.

Obama is an usurper, and that isn’t a birhter opinion. Thats a constitutionalist opinion. I am not a birther, I don’t care where Obama was born, from the instant the sperm hit the egg, he could not have been a natural born citizen.

UNLESS..... his parentage is NOT what is shown on his COLB. That’s is the only reason that his long form is of any interest to me. But given what the world has of the cretin, and we must go with what we have, that means he is NOT an NBC and should be removed from office post haste.


40 posted on 02/17/2010 4:17:24 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: MindBender26
A natural born citizen is described in USC 8, sec 1401.

8 USC 1401 does not contain the term "natural born citizen", so how can it describe or define it?

If you maintain it does, show us, where. Paragraph and sub-paragraph numbers.

Of course you won't be able to do so. I searched it, not only does it not contain "natural born citizen" it doesn't have the word "natural" in it, nor "born citizen".

56 posted on 02/17/2010 10:07:55 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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