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Climategate U-turn as scientist: There has been no global warming since 1995
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Posted on 02/14/2010 4:40:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

By Jonathan Petre 14th February 2010

-Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing

-There has been no global warming since 1995

-Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes

-Data: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

Sceptics believe there is strong evidence that the world was warmer between about 800 and 1300 AD than now because of evidence of high temperatures in northern countries.

But climate change advocates have dismissed this as false or only applying to the northern part of the world.

Professor Jones departed from this consensus when he said: ‘There is much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia.

Sceptics said this was the first time a senior scientist working with the IPCC had admitted to the possibility that the Medieval Warming Period could have been global, and therefore the world could have been hotter then than now.

He added that the professor’s concessions over medieval warming were ‘significant’ because they were his first public admission that the science was not settled.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; globalwarming
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1 posted on 02/14/2010 4:40:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

bflr


2 posted on 02/14/2010 4:41:57 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: cycle of discernment; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 02/14/2010 4:44:07 AM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: cycle of discernment
IPCC Leaders In Conference


4 posted on 02/14/2010 4:46:39 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Dear Government,

Does this mean we can have our light bulbs back?


5 posted on 02/14/2010 4:55:49 AM PST by Pravious
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To: cycle of discernment

The vampires in the LSM will treat this info like garlic.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 4:56:46 AM PST by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Update from the belly of the UEA’s Prof. Peter Liss:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=NewsSplash&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED12%20Feb%202010%2014%3A02%3A02%3A740

How can UEA win back public support?

Liss: “We scientists are somewhat on the back foot and its partly our own fault because we are not as willing as perhaps we ought to be in speaking to the media and so we are receiving questions and answering them when perhaps we should be setting the agenda. The so-called climate sceptics are not so inhibited; they are much more up front with saying ‘we know climate is not changing and we don’t need to do anything’ which is a very arrogant position to take. Many of them are not scientists, their opinion is against a huge body of scientific information.”

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Now that’s not arrogant;)


7 posted on 02/14/2010 5:01:29 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: JPG

But Obama said the science is settled. I am so confused and now I don’t know what to do with my carbon credits.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 5:02:15 AM PST by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: cycle of discernment
He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not.

He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no ‘statistically significant’ warming, although he argued this was a blip rather than the long-term trend.

Some of the confusion coming out about all this speculative data. First he says warming since 1998 could not be explained by natural phenomena, then he says there's been no 'statistically significant' warming since 1998 (actually, 'in the last 15 years' which dates back to 1995...). Well, which is correct?

9 posted on 02/14/2010 5:04:35 AM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: cycle of discernment

...but I thought all the snow and cold in the midwest proved there was Global Warming?


10 posted on 02/14/2010 5:04:53 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: cycle of discernment

I don’t care what the liars say. I just want the whole climate change power grab faux debate to end and the billions fraudulently wasted to land the corrupt politicians in irons.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 5:06:52 AM PST by Eddie01 (All we every really knew was it was crazy to be doin' it any other way)
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To: Pravious

Yes, yes, yes!!! Can we have the non-dangerous, non-mercury-infused ones back? The ones you don’t need EPA guidelines to dispose of if they break?


12 posted on 02/14/2010 5:11:40 AM PST by alwaysconservative (If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.)
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To: cycle of discernment

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450951/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450943/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450923/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450905/posts

New record. Same article posted five times.


13 posted on 02/14/2010 5:17:10 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's policy: A thousand points of lies.)
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To: Rocky

First time I saw it. Not all of us can be logged in 24/7.


14 posted on 02/14/2010 5:22:12 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Talk To The Hand-- Palin 2012)
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Africagate: top British scientist says UN panel is losing credibility (former IPCC chairman)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7017907.ece

A LEADING British government scientist has warned the United Nations’ climate panel to tackle its blunders or lose all credibility.

Robert Watson, chief scientist at Defra, the environment ministry, who chaired the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) from 1997 to 2002, was speaking after more potential inaccuracies emerged in the IPCC’s 2007 benchmark report on global warming.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 5:22:59 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Rocky; Admin Moderator
Mod: Your attention is invited to posts 13 and 14 above; judge thou between he and me, and either reclaim your right as the sole Post Police on this forum, or tell me to ST#U.

Thank you.

16 posted on 02/14/2010 5:24:57 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Talk To The Hand-- Palin 2012)
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To: cycle of discernment
Professor Jones said: "There is much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia. For it to be global in extent, the MWP would need to be seen clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern hemisphere. There are very few palaeoclimatic records for these latter two regions."

Well, that settles it. The Medieval Warm Period was simply a small local event, covering only North America, North Atlantic Europe and Asia and lasting only several centuries. The rest of the world must have been normal, even though we don't have any data for it. Therefore we must spend trillions on rationing and taxing fuel.

17 posted on 02/14/2010 5:25:41 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: bcsco
First he says warming since 1998 could not be explained by natural phenomena, then he says there's been no 'statistically significant' warming since 1998

No, he was referring to the period before 1998, or "the global warming observed from 1975-1998" as the question was phrased by the BBC. After that, he agreed that there was no "statistically significant" warming.

The BBC interview is here.

18 posted on 02/14/2010 5:31:40 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: ExGeeEye
Me, too. I'm glad it was reposted because I would not have wanted to miss it!
19 posted on 02/14/2010 5:43:34 AM PST by srmorton (Chose Life!)
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To: cycle of discernment

ping


20 posted on 02/14/2010 6:11:58 AM PST by BruCru (I think, therefore I am conservative!)
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