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Poll: Tea Party Shows Prospects; Less So for Sarah Palin (Barf alert.....and big yawn)
ABC News ^ | 2-11-10 | Gary Langer

Posted on 02/11/2010 8:55:52 AM PST by TitansAFC

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To: Bob J
"Stop it now before I am reduced to slobbering pile of barren fecundity."

Uh...I hate to break it to ya....but....

too late.

81 posted on 02/11/2010 4:11:57 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

“The only reason you battled the lefties for so long is because you ENJOY the conflict. Good times.”

I battled libs because I kicked their asses from side of the field to the another. What I find interesting is why Palinistas feel their mission is to kick the asses of conservatives because they have the temerity to think she needs some more seasoning.


82 posted on 02/11/2010 4:12:21 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
“And America has an awful lot of really stupid people these days.”

"But why are so many of them on FR?"

Same reason you're here. Birds of a feather....apparently.

83 posted on 02/11/2010 4:14:38 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Bob J; All

I think I’ll jump in here and ask this:

What do YOU think are the aboslutely unforgivable sins against Conservatism which Sarah Palin has committed that so compels you to be FR’s most consistent critic of both her and her supporters, and the most regular and unrelenting poster of artcles critical of her?

What, exactly, is it that she represents that is so antithetical to Conservatism as you know it that makes you oppose her with such vigor? What secret Trojan Horses do you think await Conservatives that the rest of us have failed to see?

Educate us: what are the policies of Sarah Palin which you think are so destructive to the Conservative movement that you feel that you must preemptively advocate for her defeat? What positions does she hold that pose a threat to the movement such that we must all be converted to the idea that she is not fit to lead the movement?

Take these softballs, hit them out of the park! Teach us!


84 posted on 02/11/2010 4:16:26 PM PST by TitansAFC (The Left does not devote so much effort into attacking Sarah Palin because she's a weak candidate.)
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To: Bob J

“A real conservative believes in following the constitution.”

Have you actually ever read the document or are you parroting something you heard at FR or a Palin rally?


85 posted on 02/11/2010 4:17:16 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J

Ok. You don’t think Palin’s seasoned. When will she be, IYO? What would it take to get her up to speed, IYO?

And while we’re at it, who, among the choices we have currently, would you nominate for President and VP in 2012.


86 posted on 02/11/2010 4:17:46 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Bob J

Oh you were WAAAY past glib before I showed up. Trust me.


87 posted on 02/11/2010 4:19:19 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: TitansAFC

It’s not her platform, plenty of politicans say the same things. She’s unelectable, at least right now. That means four more years of Obamainspiration.

Can I put it any more simply?


88 posted on 02/11/2010 4:20:01 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
But why are so many of them on FR?

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Do you really believe that there are "so many" "stupid people" on FR these days?

89 posted on 02/11/2010 4:20:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: XenaLee

Two questions, can I take them singly or do you want them one at a time?


90 posted on 02/11/2010 4:22:43 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
"Have you actually ever read the document or are you parroting something you heard at FR or a Palin rally?"

I've read it. It's required reading when confronting lefties. Haven't been to a Palin rally.

Two questions:

Why do you ask?

Have YOU ever read the constitution?

91 posted on 02/11/2010 4:23:35 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Bob J

Now you’re just boring.

See ya.


92 posted on 02/11/2010 4:26:49 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: trisham

There have always been stupid people on FR. But they’re like bugs, you don’t notice them until they start hitting your windshield.


93 posted on 02/11/2010 4:28:24 PM PST by Bob J
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To: XenaLee
“Why do you ask?”

Because “read/follow the constitution!” is one of the most over-used and least under utilized phrases on FR.

94 posted on 02/11/2010 4:30:52 PM PST by Bob J
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To: XenaLee

“Now you’re just boring.”

I may be infuriating but I’m never boring.

Now you really have my dander up...


95 posted on 02/11/2010 4:32:03 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J

Mulligan.

“Why do you ask?”

Because “read/follow the constitution!” is one of the most over-used and under-utilized phrases on FR.


96 posted on 02/11/2010 4:33:23 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
There have always been stupid people on FR. But they’re like bugs, you don’t notice them until they start hitting your windshield.

But that isn't what you said. You said this:

XenaLee

“And America has an awful lot of really stupid people these days.”

But why are so many of them on FR?

77 posted on February 11, 2010 7:05:05 PM EST by Bob J

Are there more "stupid people" on FR than elsewhere?

97 posted on 02/11/2010 4:37:43 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Because more of them seem to be hitting my windshield.

If you can’t understand allegory than my suggestion is to not question it as it will only make your brain hurt.


98 posted on 02/11/2010 4:39:57 PM PST by Bob J
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-—”It’s not her platform, plenty of politicans say the same things. She’s unelectable, at least right now. That means four more years of Obamainspiration.

Can I put it any more simply?”-—

So based on your personal judgement of electability three years out from an election on a candidate who has not declared anything yet, you're determined her presumed “unelectability” forces you to become her harshest critic on Free Republic even before she declares? I would think such criticism would wait until she actually declares her candidacy; heck, even folks like me who opposed Rudy Giuliani and knew he had his sights set on the White House waited until he actually declared to make regular criticisms.

I don't know how long you've been around politics, but let me tell you a grand historical fact: Ronald Reagan was “unelectable.” He was ridiculed as a right-wing fanatic by his own party, and was mocked as an actor/cowboy best known for screwing up California. Ford knocked him as a fanatic, and tied him to Pat Robertson. He was smeared as “Nixon II” by the press, based on several policy similarities and being Governor of CA. Women HATED Ronald Reagan; feminism was at its electoral peak, and no GOP candidate ran as a “Conservative” thanks to the new-found power of the feminist vote. Nobody dared.

He took the reigns of the Party at at time when the GOP was publicly synonymous with Watergate, and when nobody trusted the GOP outside of its truest base. He was UNIVERSALLY recognized as a Economic neophyte, getting blasted by Party favorite George H.W. Bush for his “Voodoo Economics,” and by the likes of George Will for being a charismatic populist who was out of his league.

Even during his first run, he was painted as old and forgetful. Hints of dementia were whispered from the first day he stepped onto the scene. He was a divorcee’, a comedian, and a radical talk show host - his public image was not one of a man qualified to lead the country against the Russians in the Cold War, much less a man who could solve a crippling energy crisis or economic malaise.

No, Ronald Reagan was universally recognized as “unelectable.” He ABSOLUTELY was.

Is Sarah Palin the next Reagan? Who knows? One thing is for sure: the kind of premature judgement calls you make are the kind of things that get a Scott Brown defeated in MA, and a John McCain or Bob Dole nominated for President. Nobody thought Scott Brown was electable in MA, but he was. Nobody thought Reagan could win it all, but he did. Everyone thought Dole and McCain were the strongest candidates the GOP had to offer, and they got trounced.

So I would suggest that rather than attack one of the most consistent Conservatives on the scene today as if she were an enemy of the movement itself - based solely on a presumptuous and premature calculation that she can't win - a Conservative which you openly admit is hard to discredit based on her platform - why not let the dust settle and see if Sarah can sell Conservatism before advocating for her defeat?

Frankly, I think you're wrong. I think she's the most electable candidate we have right now, and that's why the Liberals and their media spend every waking moment of every day trying to take her down. You don't do that to your weakest opponent, you send them money and you laud them - which is why the media gives glowing stories about Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. It's the strongest opponent you try to take out as early as you can. All weapons are pointed at Sarah Palin daily, which tells you more than any media-sponsored poll ever will.
The truly independent pollsters always have her in a statistical tie with Obama - considering how the press defines the both of them, I can't wait until she's out there defining herself nationally on a daily basis. You bet she can win this thing.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/dobbs_in_2012_gets_up_to_14_of_vote_hurts_gop_chances

Rasmussen Reports: November 2009
Obama 46%
Palin 43%

99 posted on 02/11/2010 5:04:27 PM PST by TitansAFC (The Left does not devote so much effort into attacking Sarah Palin because she's a weak candidate.)
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To: TitansAFC
"Everyone thought Dole and McCain were the strongest candidates the GOP had to offer, and they got trounced."

Okay, that statement right there get's you pushed into the "Bigfoot knocked up my wife!" crowd.

Now I got to go to dinner and don't have time to respond to your lunacy line by line, but I will leave you with this...

OMG, not another "Palin is just like Reagan" post?

Anyone, and I mean anyone who compares anything about Reagan with Palin should be locked up and their vote taken away.

For the good of the country.

100 posted on 02/11/2010 5:24:00 PM PST by Bob J
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