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UK Court Publishes Details of Alleged CIA Torture (ordered release of intel cruel, inhuman ..)
AOL News ^ | Feb 11 2010 | Theunis Bates

Posted on 02/10/2010 10:22:40 PM PST by Former Military Chick

LONDON (Feb. 10) – A London court on Wednesday ordered the British government to disclose confidential U.S. intelligence showing that a British resident and former Guantanamo Bay inmate suffered "cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment" while in American custody.

U.K. Foreign Secretary David Miliband had previously refused to allow the publication of U.S. material dealing with the treatment of Binyam Mohamed, who was arrested in Pakistan in 2002. Divulging this information, warned Miliband, could jeopardize Britain's intelligence-sharing deal with the U.S. and damage future anti-terror operations.

A London court ruled Wednesday that the British government must disclose confidential U.S. intelligence regarding the treatment of former Guantanamo Bay detainee Binyam Mohamed, pictured here at a fundraising event last year.

However, three of the country's top judges dismissed these protests, pointing out that similar material concerning Mohamed had already been published in the United States.

This once-top secret intelligence – which was passed from the CIA to British security service MI5 in 2002 – can now be read on the U.K. Foreign Office Web site. The document supports Mohamed's claim, which he made repeatedly since his release from Guantanamo in 2009, that while British intelligence agents may not have taken part in his torture, they knew it was happening.

The document addresses a period soon after Mohamed's arrest, when he was being held by Pakistani interrogators at the request of the U.S. under suspicion of receiving training from al-Qaida in Afghanistan. It reveals that Mohamed was subjected to "continuous sleep deprivation," had been chained up throughout interrogations and was exposed to "threats and inducements" that played on his fear of being "removed from United States custody and 'disappearing.' " This treatment, the paper continued, led to Mohamed's being kept on suicide watch.

In their summary of the case, the London judges said, "Although it is not necessary for us to categorize the treatment reported, it could readily be contended to be at the very least cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment by the United States authorities."

Ethiopian-born Mohamed, 31 -- who moved to the United Kingdom as a teenager and converted to Islam in 2000 – has long denied having any connections to terrorism and says he was simply arrested for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He claims he flew to Pakistan in May 2001 to help kick a drug habit and later that year headed to Afghanistan, as he wanted to see a "pure" form of Islam under the Taliban.

On his return to Karachi airport in 2002, Mohamed was held on charges of using a false passport and handed over to American authorities, who put him on an "extraordinary rendition" flight to Morocco, where he was tortured. (He says a Moroccan torturer named Marwan slashed his chest and genitals with a scalpel during interrogations.)

Mohamed was then taken to a "dark prison" run by the U.S. in Afghanistan, where he says he was forced to listen to a recording of rapper Eminem, played at deafening volume, continually for a whole month. His next stop was Guantanamo.

The U.S. eventually dropped all charges against Mohamed. On his return to the U.K. in '09, he lodged a civil damages lawsuit against the government, which he accused of being complicit in his torture, since an MI5 officer had interviewed him when he was held in Pakistan. In 2008, Britain's High Court ruled that MI5's involvement in Mohamed's mistreatment had gone "far beyond that of a bystander or witness to the alleged wrongdoing."

Wednesday's revelations are part of a revised version of that 2008 ruling, which – on first release – was missing seven paragraphs of comments from the judges. The foreign minister had appealed against the publication of those specific lines, but on Wednesday the Court of Appeal declined his request.

Human rights activists have celebrated the release of the blocked paragraphs and are now calling for a full public inquiry into the affair. "It has been clear for over a year that the Foreign Office has been more concerned with saving face than exposing torture," said Shami Chakrabarti, director of campaign group Liberty. "These embarrassing paragraphs reveal nothing of use to terrorists, but they do show something of the U.K. government's complicity with the most shameful part of the war on terror."

There are likely to be more revelations about Mohamed's apparent mistreatment in coming months. U.K. police are investigating the MI5 agent who questioned Mohamed to find out if he broke any British laws on torture. According to Clive Stafford-Smith, Mohamed's lawyer, the seven paragraphs released Wednesday are just "crumbs" and there is "a vast body of other information out there showing Binyam Mohamed was abused."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: binyammohamed; islamicconvert; revert; reverts; terror; torture; usa
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First, I cannot believe he was detained for the fun of it, we are at war, perhaps we need to go to congress and actually have a formal declaration of war.

Do we need to continue to give out information that is important to our goal of the security of the US.

All this will do is play into the left, who seem now fixated on Blair who was a friend of Bush, and who has said if asked to do what he did would do it again.

As the daughter of a military officer, former USAF, my father-in-law served in Vietnam, and my husband, US Army officer, serving tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, we may not be part of the CIA but our goals are the same to keep the USA safe, this is troubling.

1 posted on 02/10/2010 10:22:41 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

This is Britain’s doing, not the USA’s.


2 posted on 02/10/2010 10:28:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What torture? There’s no torture mentioned.


3 posted on 02/10/2010 10:29:20 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: HiTech RedNeck
While I agree, where is the influence of the Obama administration, aren't we allies?
4 posted on 02/10/2010 10:29:25 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Bummer? He could care less.


5 posted on 02/10/2010 10:29:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ltc8k6

I mean by the US...


6 posted on 02/10/2010 10:30:26 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

There isn’t any torture, IMHO, but just the way this was challanged, released what do you think the Obama admin will do with this?


7 posted on 02/10/2010 10:30:38 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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How long will it be before some European or Obama Moot court hands down a verdict of guilt for the Commanders of the special forces who water boards each and every one of their soldiers just like the. 2 terrorists were but feed them worse food. Lets not hold our breath on that one, else we might be convicted of torturing ourselves.
8 posted on 02/10/2010 10:35:05 PM PST by seastay
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To: Former Military Chick

What do you mean? Having to listen to Eminem at normal volume would be torture.


9 posted on 02/10/2010 10:35:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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Our CIA folks do a great job, so do our military, if you get a chance read "Courting Disaster" it shows how this admin has chosen to release so much at the peril of those who risk their lives.

Courting Disaster

I doubt the Obama admin really cares what the courts do in Britain, but it really put's our CIA folks in a situation they do not deserve.

10 posted on 02/10/2010 10:37:37 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: seastay
OMG, let's not even go down the road of the EU and Obama who want's a gentle hand when he deals with folks like the Iran Prez.

I am all for getting info the easy way, but, those that want to kill American's aren't usually inclined to sit down with a cup of tea and open up about Osama.

Our CIA and military are honorable folks, they don't sit around thinking about how to torture. We are at war, it is really that simple.

Thank you for the comment.

Great book to read .... Courting Disaster

11 posted on 02/10/2010 10:42:15 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Britain already knew this stuff while Bush was president, because their own spies (MI5) were personally present. If this is the size of it, we hardly have a scandal.


12 posted on 02/10/2010 10:43:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Former Military Chick

True, but remember many singer’s filed a freedom of info, to find out what our soldier’s were playing, if it was their music, that was getting them to talk.

HO HUM.

Thanks for the comments.


13 posted on 02/10/2010 10:43:46 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed, but, it is that even this much was allowed to be gained. Anything can show weakness, in the eye’s of the enemy.

I guess I am really tired of the enemy knowing WHAT we are doing, with the info a few days ago regarding the Christmas Day bomber ... who, where, even though the info was stale.

I suppose I just look at it from a strictly intelligence point of view.

Thank you for that point of view.


14 posted on 02/10/2010 10:46:45 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

If Britain wants to make itself New Mecca that’s their funeral.


15 posted on 02/10/2010 10:48:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Former Military Chick
We must believe everything that the lying muslims say?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to use their method of dealing with captured enemies....behead them.

I must admit that they bring out the worst in me!

16 posted on 02/10/2010 10:50:22 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Apologize?


17 posted on 02/10/2010 10:58:51 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Former Military Chick

This guy is money grubber. I fail to see significant UK involvement in his case. He is looking to extarct a big payment from the UK government.

This puke’s most serious allegations is getting his nuts sliced by a Moroccan torturer that the CIA flew him to via a “rendition” flight. That would be the only visible signs of torture and can be faked at any time after the fact. Claiming torture is standard operating procedure. Muslims are 1000x more likely than us to use torture that us. And I mean real torture like you see in movies....not water boarding and being subjected to loud music. Muslims did this in the Balkans and Chechnya


18 posted on 02/10/2010 11:00:43 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was reading another book, that discussed how British leader’s years ago said this is where they were going, they were put down for that point of view.

I would say, they are probably laughing in their grave, the fact that the extremist want sharia law, that they protest the british military who have died for their country and Britain seem’s so slow to say “you live in Britain” live with it or leave it ...


19 posted on 02/10/2010 11:01:02 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

I
don’t
give
a
damn.

The f-ing taliban and al qaeda have murdered every American they have captured. We give them a little crap and the world is on us. Wake me when the CIA saws off the head of a taliban fighter with a dull knife.


20 posted on 02/10/2010 11:01:28 PM PST by MediaMole
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