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To: Condor51; CutePuppy; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker
...... looks to me like Rahm's buddies at GOLDMAN SACHS were basically having Greece pull a Check Kiting Scam, except with real money...........

I just can't wait til Rahm (or family members) announce they are going on a "family vacation" to Greece.

47 posted on 02/09/2010 11:52:11 AM PST by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; hennie pennie; FromLori; hoosiermama
Traders make $8bn bet against euro

U.S. Stocks Rally on Growing Prospects for Bailout of Greece

U.S. stocks rallied, sending the Dow Jones Industrial Average up the most since July, as growing prospects for a bailout of Greece eased concern deteriorating government finances will derail the global economic recovery.

EU leaders will discuss Greece’s plans to reduce the region’s biggest deficit when they meet Feb. 11, and European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet’s decision to leave a meeting of policy makers in Sydney one day early fanned speculation that officials will agree on aid.

Fitch Ratings analyst Brian Coulton said an EU bailout for Greece is a “possibility” and not “assured.” He spoke on a conference call today. Equities trimmed gains earlier, and European shares erased a rally, after Fitch Ratings analysts also said the U.K. needs to pledge further measures to rein in its budget deficit, and the medium-term outlook for Greece is “cloudy.”

48 posted on 02/09/2010 12:37:22 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Liz; Condor51
The problem with Greece was not as much Goldman Sachs, or for that matter, any other financial / currency advisers to other European semi-socialist countries, which (to different degrees) routinely understated their debt and deficits in violation of EU contract... with ECB (under Duisenberg and Trichet, who had to be cleared of fraud charges in collapse of Credit Lyonnais) routinely looking the other way, for the sake of Euro and the Union.

Bigger problem (and the US should heed that, too) is that Greece has been more socialist far longer than other European PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain) and now some of these PIIGS are coming home to oink.

The State of Greek Business - GreekCentral, by Tom Mazarakis (American who has lived in Greece since the early seventies)

PASOK is a name of Panellinio Sosialistikó Kínima - PanHellenic Socialist Movement, which governed Greece for most of last 3 decades. And this was written just before another Socialist government took over in Greece at the end of 2009... PASOK leader George Papandreou, Jr is also the President of the Socialist International.

From Europe could face years-long debt grind - AP, 2010 February 08, by Elena Becatoros and Carlo Provano


52 posted on 02/10/2010 12:12:03 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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