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Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/7/10 | Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross

Posted on 02/07/2010 10:47:44 AM PST by SmithL

The biggest open secret in the landmark trial over same-sex marriage being heard in San Francisco is that the federal judge who will decide the case, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker, is himself gay.

Many gay politicians in San Francisco and lawyers who have had dealings with Walker say the 65-year-old jurist, appointed to the bench by President George H.W. Bush in 1989, has never taken pains to disguise - or advertise - his orientation.

They also don't believe it will influence how he rules on the case he's now hearing - whether Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure approved by state voters to ban same-sex marriage, unconstitutionally discriminates against gays and lesbians.

"There is nothing about Walker as a judge to indicate that his sexual orientation, other than being an interesting factor, will in any way bias his view," said Kate Kendell, head of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, which is supporting the lawsuit to overturn Prop. 8.

As evidence, she cites the judge's conservative - albeit libertarian - reputation, and says, "There wasn't anyone who thought (overturning Prop. 8) was a cakewalk given his sexual orientation."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; judge; judiciary; lawsuit; prop8; samesexmarriage; vaughnwalker; walker
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To: SmithL
A San Fransicko judge is gay??
LMAO!!
Anyway, it's nice to know the fix is in.
21 posted on 02/07/2010 11:04:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Judge shopping, right?”

No.


22 posted on 02/07/2010 11:05:17 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

That’s a false argument.


23 posted on 02/07/2010 11:05:33 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

No, it is not.


24 posted on 02/07/2010 11:06:13 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
That is nonsense, as the very same could be said by Prop 8 opponents if the judge were straight.

Bullsht. So far the judge has done anything but acted impartially in this case. That fact that he is gay, now explains his actions up to this point. *IF* he had acted like a judge so far instead of a flaming activist, you may have an argument.

25 posted on 02/07/2010 11:07:14 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. Populists Hugo Chavez and Hussein Obama are next.)
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To: icwhatudo

>> Unbelievable! Why was this guy not removed from this case?

I guess he can only prove his judicial integrity if Prop 8 is not ruled unconstitutional. /s

But seriously, the judge that is sympathetic to the minority position will always be more suspect than the one that is not. Do we know if Walker is a proponent of SSM?


26 posted on 02/07/2010 11:07:37 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“So far the judge has done anything but acted impartially in this case.”

That is a question that will be answered by the SCOTUS.


27 posted on 02/07/2010 11:10:10 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
"For the very same reason that heterosexual judges are not removed from cases due to their sexuality."

It would be the same if the case was about sexual abuse of a horse. How could a judge who was into bestiality be allowed to judge? Would they really need to find a judge who was neither for nor against sex with horses? That is ridiculous.

28 posted on 02/07/2010 11:10:21 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Lancey Howard

>> Anyway, it’s nice to know the fix is in.

A “Read my lips” appointment nonetheless.


29 posted on 02/07/2010 11:11:36 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SmithL
Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial

...just like race was a "non-issue" during OJ's trial....

30 posted on 02/07/2010 11:12:55 AM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: icwhatudo

“It would be the same if the case was about sexual abuse of a horse. How could a judge who was into bestiality be allowed to judge? Would they really need to find a judge who was neither for nor against sex with horses? That is ridiculous.”

Yes, what you have posted is ridiculous.


31 posted on 02/07/2010 11:13:06 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
That is a question that will be answered by the SCOTUS.

Gosh, you think?

32 posted on 02/07/2010 11:13:22 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. Populists Hugo Chavez and Hussein Obama are next.)
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To: trumandogz
For the very same reason that heterosexual judges are not removed from cases due to their sexuality.

False logic. The attempts to redefine marriage legally are an effort to accommodate the proclivities of a special interest group which represents 1-2 % of the population. Putting a member of that 1-2% as the judge in the trial is an obvious skew.

Let's put it another way: how many heterosexual people are there who are sympathetic to the idea of gay marriage? Answer: plenty, especially in California. Now, how many gay people are adamantly against gay marriage? Answer: few, if any. Therefore, while having a heterosexual judge may imply a bias against gay marriage, a gay judge virtually guarantees a bias in favor of gay marriage.
33 posted on 02/07/2010 11:15:09 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

You have nothing to stand with your claim that the judge would be biassed.

And you sound like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton screaming that African American defendants should always be put on trial before an African American judge and a jury made exclusively of African Americans.


34 posted on 02/07/2010 11:19:38 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: pnh102

“Evil people always support each other; that is their main strength.”

Alexander Solzhenitsin


35 posted on 02/07/2010 11:20:59 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: trumandogz

>> That is a question that will be answered by the SCOTUS.

I agree.

Good luck defending your reasoning. Of course, being among the minority on this issue, your ‘judgment’ of the judge is predictable — as is the majority’s view.


36 posted on 02/07/2010 11:21:18 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SmithL

So they quote a lesbian activist who says he won’t be biased. Why am I not convinced that she is a credible witness?


37 posted on 02/07/2010 11:22:19 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SmithL

Judge Vaughn Walker

38 posted on 02/07/2010 11:22:23 AM PST by kcvl
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39 posted on 02/07/2010 11:23:28 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trumandogz
Yes, it is. Homosexuality is a abnormality of the brain. Either genetic, or psychological or a combination of both.

It is impossible for someone suffering from an abnormality to give even the appearance of unbiased reasoning to it. Doubly so, considering the emotional baggage that almost always comes with the problem.

This judge should not be involved with the case.

40 posted on 02/07/2010 11:24:40 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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