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To: tsprague1
You are confusing involuntary Loss of Nationality with voluntary Loss of Nationality.

Barry Soetoro volunteered to give up his U.S. Citizenship to become an Indonesian National. Indonesia would not have allowed Barry Soetoro to become an Indonesian National unless he first showed a Certificate of Loss of Nationality (Form FS-348 circa 1966-67) because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship.

Obama supporters like to point out court cases and immigration policy contrary to a minor renouncing his citizenship. But this concerns involuntary Loss of Nationality and has no effect on voluntary Loss of Nationality, i.e. a step-son of an Indonesian National living in Indonesian and planning to spend the rest of his life in Indonesia.

It's obvious Obama considers the dissolution of the Soetoro adoption as dissolution of his Certificate of Loss of Nationality on file with the U.S. State Department. It's not true. When the Soetoro adoption was voided, Barack Hussein Obama II became stateless.

Barack had a window of opportunity to restore his U.S. Citizenship until he turned age 18 and 6 months. Even so, restoration would have required an Oath of Allegiance which would make him a naturalized citizen.


116 posted on 02/08/2010 7:19:10 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Barry Soetoro volunteered to give up his U.S. Citizenship to become an Indonesian National. Indonesia would not have allowed Barry Soetoro to become an Indonesian National unless he first showed a Certificate of Loss of Nationality (Form FS-348 circa 1966-67) because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship.

While that may be true of Indonesia, it is not true of the US. Since Obama is, and was, a US citizen, neither he or his parents could give up his US citizenship while he was still a minor. It does not matter, in the slightest, what another country decides to do. Obama was a citizen of this country, therefore the US laws apply and Indonesian law does not.

Barack had a window of opportunity to restore his U.S. Citizenship until he turned age 18 and 6 months. Even so, restoration would have required an Oath of Allegiance which would make him a naturalized citizen.

He had no need to restore his citizenship because he never lost it. A minor cannot give up their US citizenship. Period.

I don't know where you are getting your citizenship laws from but you need to change to someone reputable. This person, quite obviously, does not know what they are talking about. Since Obama was a minor, there was no removal of US citizenship. When he came of age he would have had to renounce his citizenship in order to lose it. He did not do that.

You have the way things are done completely turned around.

120 posted on 02/08/2010 8:07:00 AM PST by tsprague1
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