Posted on 02/07/2010 6:15:41 AM PST by wolfcreek
Precedent. Really. (think secession)
Unilateral secession isn't illegal, or so y'all keep telling us.
Quite being obtuse. Oh, wait a minute, forgot who I'm dealing with............
Carry on.
And I should really know better than to expect a coherent answer to anything from someone like you. But I keep hoping...
Mr. Hamilton has the floor:
“It has been observed, to coerce the states is one of the maddest projects that was ever devised. A failure of compliance will never be confined to a single state. This being the case, can we suppose it wise to hazard a civil war?
“Suppose Massachusetts, or any large state, should refuse, and Congress should attempt to compel them, would they not have influence to procure assistance, especially from those states which are in the same situation as themselves? What picture does this idea present to our view? A complying state at war with a non-complying state; Congress marching the troops of one state into the bosom of another; this state collecting auxiliaries, and forming, perhaps, a majority against the federal head.
“Here is a nation at war with itself. Can any reasonable man be well disposed towards a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself — a government that can exist only by the sword? Every such war must involve the innocent with the guilty. This single consideration should be sufficient to dispose every peaceable citizen against such a government. But can we believe that one state will ever suffer itself to be used as an instrument of coercion? The thing is a dream; it is impossible.”
Mr. Tucker has the floor:
“The federal government, then, appears to be the organ through which the united republics communicate with foreign nations, and with each other. Their submission to its operation is voluntary: its councils, its sovereignty is an emanation from theirs, not a flame by which they have been consumed, nor a vortex in which they are swallowed up. Each is still a perfect state, still sovereign, still independent, and still capable, should the occasion require, to resume the exercise of its functions, as such, in the most unlimited extent.
“But until the time shall arive when the occasion requires a resumption of the rights of sovereignty by the several states (and far be that period removed when it should happen) the exercise of the rights of sovereignty by the states, individually, is wholly suspended, or discontinued, in the cases before mentioned: nor can that suspension ever be removed, so long as the present constitution remains unchanged, but by the dissolution of the bonds of union. An event which no good citizen can wish, and which no good, or wise administration will ever hazard.”
Mr. Jefferson has the floor:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
It would stand to reason that the Supreme Court should decide. Any rational party would look for the peaceful solution. However, the South chose war instead.
You got one.
Of course, like you, I could Google up a bunch of quotes and cherry pick sections to support my argument while trying, vainly, to convince my loyal readers that I'm vastly more intelligent than the Founders, much less the rabble that visits this board and, that I have a unique insight and perspective into the inner souls of those Founders that I quote knowing that they, and the country, would have been much better off if they had had the pleasure and privilege of my counsel.
Not from you.
Of course, like you, I could Google up a bunch of quotes and cherry pick sections to support my argument while trying, vainly, to convince my loyal readers that I'm vastly more intelligent than the Founders, much less the rabble that visits this board and, that I have a unique insight and perspective into the inner souls of those Founders that I quote knowing that they, and the country, would have been much better off if they had had the pleasure and privilege of my counsel.
What you have described is the official game plan of the Lost Cause brigade. Y'all have taken it to a high art.
Yawn.............
He is the mastercopynpaster.
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