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The battery's dead: Scientists invent wafer-thin plastic that can store electricity
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 2/6/10 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 02/06/2010 11:44:40 AM PST by ruralvoter

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To: henkster
http://www.themilkweed.com/Feature_06_Jan.pdfHut’s cheese supplier—Leprino Foods—

uses a silicone-based industrial chemical in the patented manufacturing of “Pizza Cheese.” That chemical—Polymethylsiloxane—has no FDA approval for use as a food ingredient. Polymethylsiloxane is sold by Dow-Corning as “Antifoam FG 10”.

21 posted on 02/06/2010 12:17:38 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem; snarks_when_bored; Fred Nerks; FredZarguna; Physicist; The_Reader_David; ...
Like, *PING*, folks.

Cheers!

22 posted on 02/06/2010 12:26:30 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ruralvoter; Terpfen; Britt0n; Ron C.; Pontiac; DGHoodini

This is a non-event... as one of the comments following the story points out...

“1) As many people have stated, this is a supercapacitor. They’ve been around for decades, and they’re an American invention.

2) There’s no way this is the end of the battery - batteries can be made just as thin and have hundreds and potentially thousands of times the energy density of this supercapacitor. Powering a standard LED for 20 minutes requires a very small amount of energy - a mobile phone battery would keep the same LED lit for at least two days, and they’re a fair bit smaller than 5 inches square. How is a supercapacitor ever going to power a mobile phone/iPod? A battery is the only way forward for a low current application.

3) This is being reported as if it’s a scientific invention - it’s not, it just seems to be an engineering group making thin-film supercaps to stick in car door panels or something like that. It’s barely even news!

For the record, I work in a research group specialising in batteries and supercaps.

- Matt, Southampton, 06/2/2010 17:16”


23 posted on 02/06/2010 12:30:29 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Terpfen
Every few months we get a story about new battery or battery replacement technology and it never goes anywhere.
Zzzzz


My thoughts exactly. You beat me to it.

These newspapers (if I can still use the word paper) get their stories from the scientific and technical journals and most of the people at the news organizations are scientifically and technically illiterate. They don't read the fine print and find that many of these are advances are in the infancy stages and they rarely pan out.

The research universities have a policy where their professors must publish material so they can stay on the faculty and get research money. So they publish a lot of wishful thinking. I've been reading these studies for 20 or more years and 99% of them are bunk. If I had a nickle for every over exaggerated story about energy breakthroughs I've read I could go for early retirement. If on the extremely rare occasion I'm wrong and this is significant, then I'll be the happiest guy around. I'm just getting tire of all the wolf calls.
24 posted on 02/06/2010 12:31:03 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Terpfen

I’m not impressed nature makes electricity(lightning) by mixing warm air and cold air, if they ever come up with a way to do that, then Ill be impressed


25 posted on 02/06/2010 12:34:09 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Bob

I want the patent on the adapter to fit these new flat plastic batteries retroactively, into every AA battery device in existence...


26 posted on 02/06/2010 12:35:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: ruralvoter

Waiting for the perfect transducer invention—that is where cold weather causes it to emit heat wavelets and in hot weather it releases cold instead. Tiny transducers aligning the peripheral walls of buildings would be fantastic and never needing electrical AC power to operate or sustain.


27 posted on 02/06/2010 12:43:29 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Terpfen

Really? You’re putting coppertops in your cell phone?


28 posted on 02/06/2010 12:50:10 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: OldDeckHand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA25ghMAyak


29 posted on 02/06/2010 12:55:43 PM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: Bob

Well, that’s probably why it’s not going to market as is. Looking at the photo, I’m suspecting they’re expecting to use microchip technology to dramatically shrink the size of the “capacitor paper.”


30 posted on 02/06/2010 1:02:03 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus

Congratulations, you’ve won today’s 30,000 Feet Award for allowing the substance of the post you’ve quoted to fly over your head!


31 posted on 02/06/2010 1:14:10 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen
Every few months we get a story about new battery or battery replacement technology and it never goes anywhere.

Zzzzz.

So you've noticed that too, hey? Indeed, these wunderbat announcements have been going on for at least 20 years now. If you bother to follow any of these initial announcements, the companies always crash and burn because "we're still working out the problems of commercial production". This happens every time! After multiple rounds of investment financing, the investments eventually dry up and the company goes out of business, presumably with the principals considerably richer in some fashion or other.

At this point, I think the whole wonderbat thing is just a very popular scam to fleece investors.

32 posted on 02/06/2010 1:16:26 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: dfwgator

It’s minty fresh!


33 posted on 02/06/2010 1:40:42 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: grey_whiskers

thanks, bfl


34 posted on 02/06/2010 1:42:23 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Terpfen

Yeah. I know.


35 posted on 02/06/2010 2:17:39 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: ruralvoter

British con artists looking for idiots to fund them!


36 posted on 02/06/2010 2:21:03 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dfwgator

I feel like I am going to explode.


37 posted on 02/06/2010 5:02:24 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: henkster

Well, we do eat food made from chemicals.


38 posted on 02/06/2010 5:03:20 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: dr_who

Source, please.


39 posted on 02/06/2010 5:03:44 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: dangus

In the Matrix, you are the coppertop!


40 posted on 02/06/2010 5:06:05 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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