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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE DAILY DIGEST FOR 2/05/10
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Posted on 02/05/2010 7:53:25 PM PST by socialismisinsidious

Health Care? Don't Mention It!

The Wall Street Journal ^ | 02-04-10 | JOHN FUND

Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:24:26 PM by GOP_Lady

Democrats privately lay into President Obama for his lack of a health-care strategy.

President Obama's session with Democratic Senators yesterday was carefully scripted, with the questioners all selected in advance by the Democratic leadership to address issues such as partisan gridlock and GOP obstructionism. Senators Evan Bayh and Blanche Lincoln, both of whom are facing serious opponents this fall, went off message with concerns about the liberal drift of the administration, but all other questioners stuck to their talking points.

Obama calls for talks with GOP on health care, then vote by Congress(Still trying to make it happen)

cnn ^ | 2/4/10

Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 11:44:55 AM by bestintxas

President Obama called Thursday for high-level talks with Republicans to work out a compromise on health care legislation, then putting the resulting bill to a vote in Congress.

Obama admits health care overhaul may die on Hill

Associated Press ^ | Feb. 5, 2010 | ERICA WERNER

Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 12:33:19 PM by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) - After insisting for a year that failure was not an option, President Barack Obama is now acknowledging his health care overhaul may die in Congress.

Sen. Landrieu defends Medicaid deal for La.

Breitbart ^ | 2/4/10 | ERICA WERNER

Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:45:25 PM by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - Called a prostitute by conservative talk show hosts, a Louisiana Democrat on Thursday defended a deal she cut for her Hurricane Katrina-ravaged state in the Senate health care bill.

Sen. Mary Landrieu insisted the Medicaid boost worth $300 million wasn't the price for her vote for President Barack Obama's sweeping health care plan and she noted that state Republicans backed the deal. Defiantly, she said she would do it all over again if she had to.



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1 posted on 02/05/2010 7:53:25 PM PST by socialismisinsidious
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care daily digest PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this daily digest ping list (one ping per day of links to pertinent articles).




2 posted on 02/05/2010 7:53:59 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


3 posted on 02/05/2010 8:09:57 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: socialismisinsidious
went off message with concerns about the liberal drift of the administration

Liberal drift??? This entire administration is chock full of communists and she thinks they are in a liberal drift?

4 posted on 02/05/2010 8:13:17 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: socialismisinsidious
No link, this came in my email from TN Eagle Forum this morning I think the people mentioned are D's, I know Burke is.

HEALTH FREEDOM ACT:

SB 3498 by *Beavers ( *HB 3433 by *Harwell)

Health Care - As introduced, enacts "Tennessee Health Freedom Act." This bill provides that it is the public policy of this state that every person within this state is and will be free to choose or decline to choose any mode of securing health care services without penalty or threat of penalty, and this bill provides that with this bill the state is exercising its sovereign power to declare this public policy.

STATUS: SB3498 is in Senate Commerce on Tuesday

ACTION: Contact these committee members and urge them to support this bill.

Charlotte Burks, Eric Stewart and Reginald Tate.

5 posted on 02/06/2010 6:42:54 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GailA
Link for Tennessee Legislature
6 posted on 02/06/2010 6:46:06 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: socialismisinsidious
Democrats chafe as White House wavers on health care bill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2445685/posts

President Concedes Health Care Effort May Die in Congress [Last Rites?]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2445577/posts

7 posted on 02/06/2010 7:33:18 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
I'm not walking away from my obamadeathcare

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2445948/posts

8 posted on 02/06/2010 3:09:14 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GailA
The Hill

I'm not walking away

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2445893/posts

9 posted on 02/06/2010 3:24:43 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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