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To: JasonC

With all due respect, when the government is spending $1.60 for every dollar it takes in, and thus has to borrow money to bail out a bunch of crooks that made bad bets, under circumstances that all but assure we will never get our money back, talk of not losing a dime is ignorant.

Who pays the interest on the money we borrowed to cover the bad bets of European banks? We do. And then each and every dollar we own, a “federal reserve note,” is now the note of a bank that has trashed its own balance sheet by taking on AIG’s toxic debt and swapping it for Treasuries.

Sweeping this problem under the rug of the Fed’s balance sheet does not mean “none of it has lost a dime”. Billions have been lost, and the American people are just too ignorant and propagandized to see it. Even Geithner is out in public talking about losses on AIG, and that is just the direct losses, the tip of the iceberg.


91 posted on 02/07/2010 9:53:57 PM PST by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: Buchal
All completely false crap. The government runs deficits because tax receipts fell $440 billion on the recession, and handouts and transfers rose $400 billion. Mainstreet is the beneficiary of all of it, and is never expected to pay any of it back. The banks, on the other hand, are charged interest, well above the Treasury's own cost of funds, and repay it in full. All the support for the banks has made the treasury money, not cost it a thing. The reason it is opposed anyway by class war populist crap-flingers is because rich people benefited, and they can't stand the thought of that ever happening. Even if it doesn't cost them a dime, which it doesn't.

Leaving aside the fact that it benefited everyone by keeping the financial system functioning, and the banks open, protected depositers, revived stock and bond markets, and helped make back $5 trillion in lost asset wealth, and leaving aside the fact that the US financial sector pays the US treasury over $400 billion a year in taxes, and leaving aside the Fed's record profits last year on all its forms of support - paid to the US treasury at year end I might add - none of the money directly invested in major US financial corporations has cost the US taxpayer anything. Bailouts to UAW, cost plenty. Handouts to deadbeat homeowners, cost plenty. Middle class entitlements, the greatest boondoggle waste in world history, cost plenty. None of them get a drop of ink from the populist haters of finance. Why?

Because they hate rich people benefiting in any way, and any cost to themselves has nothing to do with it.

Which is why to me everyone who argues that way and recycles the same commie class war bilge is lower than pond scum. I'll take the bankers over them any day and twice on Sundays.

92 posted on 02/07/2010 10:09:33 PM PST by JasonC
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