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1 posted on 02/05/2010 2:23:49 PM PST by JohnRLott
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2 posted on 02/05/2010 2:28:20 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Jobs Created = 0.0

Jobs “Saved” = 6,000,000

<./> Obama statistics


3 posted on 02/05/2010 2:45:37 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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The problem is that the two surveys have reached different estimates, with the household survey showing a significantly greater drop in the number of jobs than the establishment survey. And it turns out that there might be a simple reason for that. For the survey of firms, the list of firms surveyed doesn’t change very often. Thus the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which puts these numbers together, can only guess at the number of jobs created by new firms since they don’t even know how many new firms have been created each month. To get around this gap in the data, the Bureau makes an assumption that the jobs created at new companies is about equal to the jobs lost at companies that go out of business.

Unfortunately, that assumption hasn’t worked during the current recession. Firms have been going out of business and news ones haven’t sprung up to take their place. Keith Hall, Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, said that most of the revisions made up until March 2009 were made because the number of business closing hasn’t been matched by jobs create by new businesses.

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6 posted on 02/05/2010 3:01:04 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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” ... based on surveys, and surveys have can often have problems.”
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Clark It musta’ been a survey course then, huh?

CHUCKIE Yeah, it was, it was surveys.


7 posted on 02/05/2010 3:02:09 PM PST by Mobties
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” ... based on surveys, and surveys have can often have problems.”
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Clark It musta’ been a survey course then, huh?

CHUCKIE Yeah, it was, it was surveys.


8 posted on 02/05/2010 3:03:51 PM PST by Mobties
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The economy actually lost about 824,000 more jobs during the recession than we previously thought. But those adjustments have so far only been made through March 2009, and there are strong reasons to believe that the survey data since then also needs to be adjusted downward...
Thanks JohnRLott.
10 posted on 02/05/2010 3:35:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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... To get around this gap in the data, the Bureau makes an assumption that the jobs created at new companies is about equal to the jobs lost at companies that go out of business.

Unfortunately, that assumption hasn't worked during the current recession. Firms have been going out of business and news ones haven't sprung up to take their place."

Our current unemployment rate is probably still above 10%, though it may be improving.

Perhaps most telling:

Firms have been going out of business and news ones haven't sprung up to take their place.

Atlas shrugs.

Why would anyone want to start a new business now? There are always risks in starting a new business. But in addition, Pelosi, Reid and Obama want to order businesses around, are hostile to business and employers, and plan to redistribute business and personal income. This is not the time to start or expand a business given our current political/regulatory environment.

11 posted on 02/05/2010 3:52:32 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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My son is only working 32 hrs a week and lucky to have his manufacturing job at all. Wonder how many other people out there are in the same boat? They are not unemployed, but neither are they underemployed, they just aren’t getting the 40 hrs necessary to make it. He’s single so is hit harder by the tax ax, and is barely holding his head above water. Little chance of taking on a second job due to the crappy obama economy.


15 posted on 02/05/2010 5:55:51 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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How did they get the 9.7% number?


16 posted on 02/05/2010 6:13:07 PM PST by expatpat
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