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Legends of Vietnam: Bronco's Tale (possible comeback)
Air & Space Magazine ^ | William E. Burrows

Posted on 02/05/2010 6:47:12 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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During the Vietnam War, the OV-10 Bronco served many masters. For the Navy, it flew light-attack missions. A forward air controller for the Air Force and Marines, it marked targets for fighter bombers like the F-100

(Courtesy Dennis Darnell)

1 posted on 02/05/2010 6:47:13 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Possible new variant of the OV-10
2 posted on 02/05/2010 6:48:51 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Might be appropriate for the export market. However, it seems to me that the UAV is preferable.


3 posted on 02/05/2010 6:55:38 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

cool


4 posted on 02/05/2010 6:58:28 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Seems like a sitting duck for a shoulder fired rocket.


5 posted on 02/05/2010 7:00:06 AM PST by Rebelbase
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6 posted on 02/05/2010 7:01:15 AM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We had a former OV-10 pilot in our VP (P-3) squadron. He liked telling us that in order to eject from the OV-10 at low altitudes the aircraft had to first be inverted.


7 posted on 02/05/2010 7:03:19 AM PST by pabianice
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Why not go ahead and build these puppies again?


8 posted on 02/05/2010 7:15:52 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: pabianice
I think the OV-10 used the “Yankee” ejection system
9 posted on 02/05/2010 7:15:55 AM PST by tophat9000 (Obama has "Jumped The Shark" ...and fell in the shark tank)
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To: pabianice

To do an inverted bailout: Blow the canopy, roll inverted, apply maximum nose down trim (hold straight & level) then simultaneously release the stick and unfasten the seat harness. Then PRAY!


10 posted on 02/05/2010 7:21:21 AM PST by Broker (Darwin's gods are dangerous men.)
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To: central_va; firep0w3r
The A-10. Now there's a tank killer.

Cool pic, cv. Thanks.

11 posted on 02/05/2010 7:41:09 AM PST by onedoug
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The article forgot that the ov10 could carry and drop up to 5 paratroopers. I have the test photos on my screen saver rotation - wicked crazy...


12 posted on 02/05/2010 7:48:33 AM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: verity

BATF purchase some OV-10’s back in 95 IIRC.


13 posted on 02/05/2010 7:52:57 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: verity

Not sure that UAV’s are up to the job where CAS is concerned. The OV-10 mission was to put rockets on a threat then laze the target for the Phantoms. Theoretically you could do that with a UAV, but the infantry gets nervous when the drop is “danger-close”.

Of course none of this makes a difference if you don’t have TacAir “on call” so to speak.


14 posted on 02/05/2010 7:53:02 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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“However, it seems to me that the UAV is preferable.”

Then you’d be wrong. It’s ALWAYS preferable to have LIVE EYES looking down when you are supporting the troops. No camera, no UAV can match the Mark I Mod 0 Eyeball. That’s just the way it is!


15 posted on 02/05/2010 8:22:05 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; All

Being a STOL, craft like these could be deployed in advanced positions on a variety of missions which would be effective in combat situations by the US Army. While their speed would not allow them to outrun a jet fighter they are faster than helicopter and can arrive at a target area quicker.

Alas there is the rotary wing treaty with the US Airforce.Commnets welcome

Earlier postings of concerns by FRs such as heat seeking shoulder fired missile defence, as well as pilot/crew ejection could be compensated for with design modifications. It seems this craft could also handle the gatling type machine gun for ground support, as well as advanced transport/pickup of combat/intelligence patrols , or even medivac.

Something like this would prove of “great assistance” in Afganistan. I think if Boeing takes in these considerations in new design and can put it together quickly and cheaply its got a winner.


16 posted on 02/05/2010 8:28:10 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a province is to let be ruled by a professor ".. Frederick the Great")
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To: dcwusmc
IMO, I think you are wrong.

The eyeball is inferior to technological target acquisition.

17 posted on 02/05/2010 10:06:56 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Tallguy
The W-E-T conditions in Afghanistan would not seem to favor the OV-10. The technological advances made in target acquisition capabilities certainly favor the UAV.

I nostalgically recall the beauty of the original PUFF [C47] hosing down an area at night. But, it was replaced.

Anyway.......it is a fun thread.

18 posted on 02/05/2010 10:29:44 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I'm posting to several comments already made, not because I know more but because an AC like the Bronco has a unique place in many of our lives.

Suitability, note a recent FR post about the Brits looking at procuring a modified Brazilian (?) trainer for FAC and COIN operations...OV10 would clean it's clock.

Personnel drops (OK, "paratroopers"), I wasn't there but knew some who tested this in OV10; said it was more fun than anyone deserves. Seems ideal for those 'hard to reach places'.

BATF using them, I do know that there were some shiny black OV10s operating in So Cal eight or ten years ago...didn't spot which agency and we largely assumed they were DEA/Immigration.

Second hand history, conflicting reports on USMC OV10s in RVN. Some have told me the Marines would shoot anything that moved (as in anything) and others that the Marines had a better affinity for ground troops and could be counted on to demonstrate it when called in.

UAVs, this 'remote versus first hand' debate has been going on for decades and I'd opt for eyeballs and on site decisions in a second. From personal experience I can state that the guys in charge can ask themselves "what the hell IS that?" only so many times before sending in someone who can actually make the determination. UAVs have a mystical attraction in that they don't cost pilots and use lots of spiffy technology. Fine for routine surveillance and border control but too slow to react and too far removed from the immediate needs of the troops. Also, real live pilots in real live airplanes, low and slow, always on call, can identify the most critical threats and prioritize their work on site.

19 posted on 02/05/2010 11:31:16 AM PST by norton
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PS: Tank killers and ground support, if industry could pull it off, and if government had half a clue, both an upgraded OV10 and an updated A10 would find welcome homes in tomorrow's operations - and they are both easy to support.

PPS: Fixed wing versus rotary wing "agreements" (AF vs. USA) - Rest in Peace Caribou.

20 posted on 02/05/2010 11:39:44 AM PST by norton
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