Really? I thought "Tailhook" just killed the inherent strength/comraderie of the aviation community through political correctness. Didn't realized or I forgot it affected a particular aircraft.
As and ex-aviation flight deck sailor I said, "Gawd too bad for the whiny little girls who wanted to be part of the boys club and got their asses swatted in some hallway just like the guys did." Too bad the little girls never got their wings pinned on to their chest (not breast). Then they would have known what it meant to be an Aviator.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know they can fly the aircraft. That was never the issue. It was about fitting in.
My first Navy experience with women first being placed on ships. My FF was tied up outside a supply ship (with female crew members) and I was standing in line for the launch to Diego Garcia when a sailor walked by a female sailor and simply said how pretty she was. He didn't stop to flirt, just made the comment and kept walking.
All hell broke out from some female Chief and the tender Master-At-Arms was notified and responded. The poor guy was pulled out of line (forcefully) and taken away. I never found out what happened to him, but we later heard he got a Captains Mast for harassment.
From that point on, I knew it to be the start of the "feminization" of my Navy. Now they are on combat ships. And what has resulted? When they don't want to deploy, they get female problems, or cry family problems, or worse intentionally get pregnant. And who picks up the slack in their divisions? Take a wild quess.
Women were never meant to serve with men on combat ships. We can thank old Patsy Schroeder for that one, and the weak Navy chain of command.
Now they want them on submarines? Let's stop and think about women being billeted on Tridents, our ultimate nuclear deterrent. The close proximity to each other; the distraction between the sexes which adds to sexual distraction; the flirting at the least; the low morale of Men of Honor who have the ultimate respossibility of NUKING a nation/region? As accomplished as the female Sailors could be, the distractions are a real possibility and not something you want on a machine that could destroy half the planet.
Yeah, okay, put females on attack subs, same problem to a lesser extent.
Women should hold down valuable stateside or tender jobs and not distract the men from their jobs. My position and it will always be. Not be cause I'm old school, because I've see problems.
Last point: Gays in the Militay. I stand by DADT! Even after all my years I've been gone from the Militiary, I quarantee that won't work in the confines of a Navy ship.
It might work in the barracks of the Army or AirForce, but Sailors and Marines live and even share bunks and it just won't work. Of course, we're told all the time that the new ships have female quarters. Do our Admirals and Generals, lower Captains/Coronels really believe the teenage boys and girls are not going to connect?
Is our chain of command so clueless or do they just don't care anymore due to political correctness? Either way, they are heading down a road that will negatively affect their operation capabilities.
Glad I left the Navy after 11 years. Wanted to do at least 20, but I saw the writing on the wall and took a better opportunity when I saw it. To bad. I would have been so proud to retired as Chief Petty Officer (E-7) or higher.
A agree totally!
Yeah, okay, put females on attack subs, same problem to a lesser extent.
Boomers (Tridents) have two crews and set schedules for the most part. Their quality of life is much, much better. Fast attacks never leave or return on the day they are supposed to. The quarters are more cramped and hotracking is mandatory every time you leave port. For every women you put on a fast attack at least three men are forced to share time in bunks. Probably more since you obviously can't have mixed berthing. Fast attack crews do much more of their own maintenance than boomers, so they have much longer working hours in port. And yes, I was jealous of living conditions on boomers.
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Don't forget the women who WILL have affairs with superiors for the purpose of using that to get favors and/or escape discipline.
And the sociopathic woman who is deliberately promiscuous so that they can provoke fights among the men and watch them fight over her.