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A verbal juggling act (Poles operated Auschwitz)
Ynet news ^ | 02.03.10 | Ze’ev Tzahor

Posted on 02/04/2010 12:01:48 PM PST by lizol

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1 posted on 02/04/2010 12:01:49 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

What a moron this guy is????

Being clearly a historical ignorant, looking forward to destroy excellent relations between Poland and Israel and hating his own army.

Gosh!


2 posted on 02/04/2010 12:06:09 PM PST by lizol
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Ping


3 posted on 02/04/2010 12:07:06 PM PST by lizol
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4 posted on 02/04/2010 12:08:13 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
the greatest extermination facility in history, which was built in Polish territory (and not coincidently) and was operated by Poles,


5 posted on 02/04/2010 12:12:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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PM Netanyahu's Speech at the Ceremony Commemorating 65 Years Since the Liberation of Auschwitz

27/01/2010

I want to thank the Government of Poland for the historic effort it is making to commemorate the greatest catastrophe that befell my people and the greatest crime committed against humanity.

We have gathered here, Poles and Jews, at the crossroads of tragedy. Our long shared history included tremendous cultural accomplishments and the lowest low humanity has experienced. We remember also that one-third of the Righteous Gentiles, those who risked their lives and their children’s lives and those of their families in order to save others, were Poles. We remember all this.

As we stand here to commemorate the past, we are helping to build a future of decency, truth and hope for our two peoples and for all mankind.

Now I will speak in Hebrew, the reborn language of the people whom the Nazis sought to exterminate.

The voices of millions of my people gassed, burned and killed in a thousand different ways rise out of this cursed ground.

In the final moment of their lives, many whispered or cried out the timeless words of our ancient people:

Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.

Perhaps a few used their final breath to chant another age-old prayer:

Remember what Amalek did to you. Never forget!

To those who were murdered here, and to those who survived the destruction, I come from Jerusalem today with this promise: We will never forget! We will never permit those who desecrated this monument to death to distort or wipe away your memory.

We will always remember what Amalek’s Nazi heirs did to you. We will be prepared to defend ourselves when a new Amalek appears on the stage of history and threatens again to annihilate the Jews.

We will not delude ourselves into believing that the threats, vilifications and Holocaust denials are merely empty words. We will never forget. We will always be vigilant.

The Holocaust author, K. Zetnick, in his testimony at the Eichman trial, called the death camps “another planet.” But the horrors of the Holocaust occurred not in a far away world but right here on earth.

It was not the work of beastly animals but of beastly men, of loathsome and despicable murderers.

The most important lesson of the Holocaust is that a murderous evil must be stopped early, when it is still in its infancy and before it can carry out its designs.

The enlightened nations of the world must learn this lesson.

We, the Jewish nation, who lost a third of our people on Europe’s blood-soaked soil, have learned that the only guarantee for defending our people is a strong State of Israel and the army of Israel.

We gave learned to warn the nations of the world of impending danger but at the same time to prepare to defend ourselves.

As the head of the Jewish state, I pledge to you today: We will never again permit evil to snuff out the life of our people and the life of our own country.

I came here today from Jerusalem to say to those who perished here: The people of Israel live!

We have returned to our homeland, to the land of our fathers, to our capital Jerusalem. We have come from every corner of the earth -- Holocaust survivors and Jewish refugees from Arab lands, Jews from the Soviet Union and Ethiopia, Poland and Yemen, Romania and Iraq, France and Morocco, Jews from seventy lands and five continents.

Some who came almost didn’t make it. Barracks #16 at the Birkenau death camp, a few meters from here, housed a17-year old Jewish boy who suffered from the 80 lashes he received in the Ghetto from his Nazi tormenters.

No one believed the boy would live, but he survived and escaped from the camp.

With the victory over the Nazis 65 years ago, he immigrated to Israel. Fifteen years later, he was the Israeli police officer guarding Adolph Eichmann when the Jewish state brought the Nazi henchmen to justice.

That young man is Michael Goldman. With his wife Eva, he raised a family in Israel, and they have five children and nine grandchildren. Michael is with us here today -- a witness to the Holocaust, a witness to the redemption.

The Jewish people rose from ashes and destruction, from a terrible pain that can never be healed.

Armed with the Jewish spirit, the justice of man, and the vision of the prophets, we sprouted new branches and grew deep roots.

Dry bones became covered with flesh, a spirit filled them, and they lived and stood on their own feet.

As Ezekiel prophesized:

“Then He said unto me: These bones are the whole House of Israel. They say, 'Our bones are dried up, our hope is gone; we are doomed.'

Prophecy, therefore, and say to them: Thus said the Lord God: I am going to open your graves and lift you out of your graves, O My people, and bring you to the land of Israel.”

I stand here today on the ground where so many of my people perished -- and I am not alone.

The State of Israel and all the Jewish people stand with me. We bow our heads to honor your memory and lift our heads as we raise our flag-a flag of blue and white with a Star of David in its center.

And everyone sees. And everyone hears. And everyone knows – that our hope is not lost.


http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng/Communication/PMSpeaks/speechauchwitz270110.htm
6 posted on 02/04/2010 12:17:13 PM PST by lizol
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...the enthusiastic role played by the Poles in the Holocaust...

WTF is he talking about?

7 posted on 02/04/2010 12:18:47 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: dfwgator

Epic Facepalm couldn’t be more appropriate in this case!


8 posted on 02/04/2010 12:20:28 PM PST by VampireStateNY (Bleeding taxpayers dry since 1788!)
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To: lizol

All but one of the camps were in Poland. One was in Austria.


9 posted on 02/04/2010 12:23:39 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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You’re wrong, I’m afraid.

Try to google for: Drancy, Bergen Belsen, Dachau, Ravensbruck, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenburg, Stuthof.


10 posted on 02/04/2010 12:31:01 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
Anti-Polish bigotry.

Why did you post this, lizol?

And I'll point out that the first prisoner to die at Auschwitz was a Polish Gentile. It wasn't until later in 1942 that Jews were brought to the camp. By then literally millions of Gentile Poles and millions Jewish Poles had already been killed. During the beginning of the war, while Jews were being rounded-up (and refused immigration to other countries), Poles were simply killed outright to, as Hitler said, create more living space for Germans.

The worst thing about all this from the perspective of the Poles is that the Germans were so effective in destroying their culture and civilization, that almost no one knows about what probably should be called the Polish Holocaust.

Of all the nations during World War II, Poland lost more people as a percentage of population than any other.

11 posted on 02/04/2010 12:31:16 PM PST by GeorgeSaden
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Auschwitz operated by Poles?

I found a comment on the actual article and I try to reprint it here:

And some other Jewish scholars who I presume have better academic credentials than him. Here's the relevant part of >>>>>Deborah Lipstad's blog:

Portion of Lipstad's blog.

Spoiler: no, Poles didn't "operate" Auschwitz and according to Wistrich and others they were less involved in the Holocaust than many other Eastern European nations. BTW, author's son gives speeches in USA in which he urges Americans to cut funding to Israel because of the immoral treatment of Palestinians.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

12 posted on 02/04/2010 12:33:33 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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13 posted on 02/04/2010 12:34:23 PM PST by lizol
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Speaking at the Auschwitz death camp in Poland, the greatest extermination facility in history, which was built in Polish territory (and not coincidently) and was operated by Poles

Were Interior Minister Heinrich Himmler, camp commandant Rudolf Hoess, and the Schutz-Staffel Polish?

14 posted on 02/04/2010 12:34:27 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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You’re wrong, I’m afraid.

Maybe he means all the extermination camps.

And this talk about Poles running Auschwitz? It's the first time I heard it and it certainly is not true.

15 posted on 02/04/2010 12:35:31 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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There was no “Vichy Poland” under Nazi Rule. As far as what happened after the war, it was the NKVD that encouraged disturbances to drive wedges between Poles and Jews. And it was Soviet-Dominated Communists in ‘68 that drove out most of Poland’s remaining Jews.

The present Polish government, under Kaczynski, is Israel’s best friend in Europe by far.


16 posted on 02/04/2010 12:39:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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OK


17 posted on 02/04/2010 12:39:19 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Fiji Hill

“There ain’t no Poles in the SS!” Sgt John Martin, 506th PIR in “Band of Brothers.”


18 posted on 02/04/2010 12:40:51 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Deja Moo - The feeling that you have heard this BS before.)
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To: Fiji Hill
A quotation of a comment, posted under the original, linked article:

A true conversation at the gates to the former Auschwitz camp:
- A tourist "And tell me where the Polish SS-men were living?"
- A guide: "There, whithin the barbed wired fences. And they were wearing stripped uniforms"

19 posted on 02/04/2010 12:44:04 PM PST by lizol
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Jaruzelski central to 1960s anti-Jewish witch hunt?
20 posted on 02/04/2010 12:46:32 PM PST by lizol
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