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Hundreds of Quakes Are Rattling Yellowstone
New York Times ^ | 1/31/10 | kirk johnson

Posted on 02/02/2010 10:20:41 PM PST by socialismislost

DENVER — In the last two weeks, more than 100 mostly tiny earthquakes a day, on average, have rattled a remote area of Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, putting scientists who monitor the park’s strange and volatile geology on alert.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Colorado; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: earthquake; earthquakes; eq; haiti; moralabsolutes; nationalparks; obama; quakes; usgs; yellowstone
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To: dragnet2
The past is the best predictor of the future. If it happened again, odds are the deposition would be similar to what we see on the maps.

Beyond that, ash is just the start of the problems. Try major catastrophic global cooling (although since Yellowstone is further north than Toba, the impacts would not be as bad - but that is relative).

161 posted on 02/05/2010 2:43:51 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: john in springfield

Holy is His name and beautiful are His ways..


162 posted on 02/05/2010 2:44:48 PM PST by aeonspromise
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To: dirtboy
If this thing went off today, would the ash normally and likely head due east/southeast or would it travel west and due south into Mexico as shown in #2?

The past is the best predictor of the future. If it happened again, odds are the deposition would be similar to what we see on the maps.

What a cockn'bull response....LOL!

You can't even admit when your incorrect....lol

WOW!

163 posted on 02/05/2010 2:47:06 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

You just confirmed what I had surmised all along. You are an idiot pretending to have a clue in a subject you know absolutely nothing about.


164 posted on 02/05/2010 2:49:43 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
The past is the best predictor of the future. If it happened again, odds are the deposition would be similar to what we see on the maps.

For the record, I based my comments on the fact that for the past few hundred years, the prevailing winds, and the jet stream most always blow from west to east from the Pacific...(It's no secret)

In fact, if there were an eruption anywhere in the northwest U.S., the ash, approximately 95 percent of the time, would blow from the west, eastward....

Only a fool would even attempt to dispute this.

But it happened here!

LOL!

165 posted on 02/05/2010 3:20:40 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Congratulations, you just re-wrote one of the fundamental laws of Geology.


166 posted on 02/05/2010 3:22:53 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dragnet2; dirtboy
OK Kids...if the eruption happened today, and the prevailing winds were west to east, what direction would the ash blow?

Gentlemen, I think you're both right, and are talking past each other.

Yes, the prevailing winds, particularly including the jet stream go west to east, and will blow a lot of ash to the east of the eruption. The jet stream winds are at an altitude of 6 to 9 km (20,000 - 50,000 feet) and can blow at close to 200 mph.

A supervolcano explosion can be in the hundred megaton range or higher. The plume of hot gas and ash can go well above 25 km. At that point, this superhot plume will expand in all directions in a huge mushroom cloud shape, and rain down ash.

Will the winds push a lot of that ash to the east? Yes. Will an appreciable amount of it fall to the west of the eruption? Yes. Will a lot of the finer ash and dust stay in the upper atmosphere for months, traveling all over the world? Yes.

167 posted on 02/05/2010 3:23:52 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: dirtboy

Some ash from Mt St Helens went west, most went east.

A bigger explosion may result in more stuff being deposited west, but it's likely that most will go east. Not all, but most.

168 posted on 02/05/2010 3:33:53 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: dirtboy

A village is calling, they are looking for one of their idiots.


169 posted on 02/05/2010 3:53:38 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
A village is calling, they are looking for one of their idiots.

At least you got the message!

170 posted on 02/05/2010 4:06:32 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: PapaBear3625
What a shocking map that is...How is it possible 99 percent of the ash/smoke went east from the eruption???

:o

171 posted on 02/05/2010 4:09:33 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Kartographer

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Interesting map; I didn’t remember Tennessee having Atlantic access....
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172 posted on 02/05/2010 4:14:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: john in springfield

Cute, but really a foolish myth!

Potatoes fried in beef tallow are not unhealthy (canola is the dangerous one)

And the white bread is the only hazard in the burger.


173 posted on 02/05/2010 4:21:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: socialismislost
"Researchers say that for now, the earthquake cluster, or swarm — the second-largest ever recorded in the park — is more a cause for curiosity than alarm'

The sound of someone speaking through their netherparts?
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174 posted on 02/05/2010 4:30:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: dirtboy
"Pushing out ash at right angles to the wind is chump change compared to that."

Some fail to recognize that the massive release of thermal energy can send dust and ash flying laterally at near sonic velocities.

175 posted on 02/05/2010 4:42:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: dragnet2

told them that you were playing here


176 posted on 02/05/2010 4:48:38 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: editor-surveyor
The point is that people worry disproportionately over things that have a very remote chance (at best) of EVER having the slightest impact on them, and completely ignore the things that are literally going to kill them.

OMG! Yellowstone is going to blow its top!

No, it isn't. Or yes, maybe it will - 146,239 years from now.

Meanwhile, we keep shoveling the fast food down our throats and sitting on our butts watching TV. (And surfing freere... oh, never mind...)

The greatest threats to people's well being, BY FAR, are the FOOD that Americans eat (both the quality and the amount), which contributes to the epidemics of cardiovascular disease and cancer, careless driving, and smoking.

177 posted on 02/05/2010 5:38:45 PM PST by john in springfield
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To: PapaBear3625
Satellite image of an ash plume from Chaitén Volcano in southern Chile on May 3, 2008. This plume begins in Chile, crosses Argentina and extends hundreds of miles out over the Atlantic Ocean. NASA image.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yet some here actually dispute that prevailing winds have no or little effect on smoke/ash plumes from volcanos, massive wildfires or whatever is creating the smoke/ash.

Satellite images, are worth a thousand words.

178 posted on 02/05/2010 5:46:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: john in springfield

It could happen ten minutes from now just as likely as millenia.


179 posted on 02/05/2010 6:43:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: dragnet2; dirtboy
It is East of Yellowstone ... but at what velocity were the micro particles hurled out of the crater and, if Quantum chromodynamics is any hint, in what directions were these micro particles hurled? The majority followed the prevailing winds, when they were no longer being accelerated like the first ejecta was being exploded.

The trick of the low pressure system is related to the complexity of forces acting upon ejecta at the time of the eruption and subsequently ... I'm sure a super volcano would involve enough energy to at least effect a weather pattern to some degree, and none of those weather parameters are measurable to us today, 70,000 years later.

If we had a TARDIS, perhaps we could do some science directly, but failing that, you guys are arguing over speculative parameters neither of you can access directly for data. We have an ash deposition record. We have a current weather pattern, which varies by seasons. But not one piece of data on the weather patterns 70,000 years ago at the moment the eruption began is accessible to any of us.

180 posted on 02/05/2010 6:45:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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