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To: silverleaf
I knew my spelling of “penitent” didn't look right, but spellcheck didn't catch it! LOL!

Back to your assertion that they weren't penitent, but touched by the Holy Spirit. Don't you think THAT makes a person contrite???

Unbelieving, unrepentant adults are not baptized just because they want to be—it's pointless.
For infants, it is the sponsors that are judged for worthiness; if they are unbelievers, the baptism is again pointless for the child.
The child will have other opportunities to be baptized when he can choose for himself.

60 posted on 02/02/2010 7:26:20 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

“For infants, it is the sponsors that are judged for worthiness; if they are unbelievers, the baptism is again pointless for the child.”

1) Infant baptism is not considered “pointless” in my Church. But you obviously worship a God who turns a child’s soul away from salvation through baptism if the hands that bring him to God are not sinless.

2) You can read anything you want into the description of d Peter’s baptism of the gentiles in Acts 10. If you are determined to believe that the first baptism of gentiles is/was brought about by about gentile “contrition” rather than faith, you will. Was Christ baptized because he was “contrite”? I think not. In the aftermath of Christ’s death, it was the Jews who had more to be “contrite” about, or certainly just as much as, the gentiles.

Acts 10:

43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.
45 The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles.
46 For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said,
47 “Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.” 48 So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.


61 posted on 02/02/2010 8:09:12 AM PST by silverleaf (My Proposed Federal Budget is $29.99)
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