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Soviet space shuttle could bail out NASA
Prime Time Russia ^ | 1/14/2010 | Prime Time Russia

Posted on 01/31/2010 10:07:13 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The Soviet-era Buran space programme, mothballed 20 years ago, may be revived. With NASA about to retire its ageing fleet of space shuttles, there is a pressing need for viable space transport.

Propeller Two decades ago the Soviet space shuttle Buran blasted off on its first and only orbital flight. Just a few years later, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the programme was shelved.

The Buran was the Soviet Union's answer to NASA’s space shuttle programme. On November 15, 1988, the shuttle was propelled out of the Earth’s atmosphere by the specially designed Energia booster rocket from the Baikonur launch pad in Kazakhstan.

Pavel Sharov from Cosmonauts News Magazine explains the advantages the Soviets had over their rivals in the U.S.

“The USSR surpassed the Americans in technology – U.S. shuttles can only be landed by humans, while the Buran lands automatically,” Sharov said.

Magomet Talboev was one of the pilots who test-flew the shuttle without going into orbit. He said the Soviet authorities had high hopes for the multi-billion dollar spacecraft.

“The Energia-Buran programme was started to get the capability to attack the United States, just like the shuttle was able to attack the USSR. We also wanted to take the Skylab space station from orbit. Buran was supposed to put it in its cargo bay and deliver it back to Earth for studies,” Tolboev said.

But the project was scrapped before these plans could be fulfilled. They sank aalong with the Soviet regime. The Energia-Buran became one of the Soviet Union's last super-projects. Billions of dollars were invested and more than a 1.5 million people worked to design and build it.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Technical
KEYWORDS: buran; energia; nasa; russia; russianspaceprogram; sovietspaceshuttle
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1 posted on 01/31/2010 10:07:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove
Pavel Sharov from Cosmonauts News Magazine explains the advantages the Soviets had over their rivals in the U.S.

"Our Germans were better than their Germans."

2 posted on 01/31/2010 10:09:07 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That was first thing that caught my eye


3 posted on 01/31/2010 10:09:56 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Delusional Russian Nationalist nonsense.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 10:11:11 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
“The USSR surpassed the Americans in technology – U.S. shuttles can only be landed by humans, while the Buran lands automatically,” Sharov said.

So Buran landed in a crosswind before we installed this technology in the Shuttle.... big whoop. It still doesn't explain why their frame warped on re-entry!

5 posted on 01/31/2010 10:11:48 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: FormerACLUmember

I think its hilarious


6 posted on 01/31/2010 10:11:56 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

-PJ

7 posted on 01/31/2010 10:13:40 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“Some of the technologies developed at the time are now used in everyday life. Fore example, several heat-resistant materials used to make deep-fryers are a direct result of the research done during Buran’s development.”

I’ll alert Presto.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 10:16:47 PM PST by Kirkwood (Crunk the Colts!)
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LOL


9 posted on 01/31/2010 10:20:59 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: dfwgator

More like today - our Russians can do advanced math while NASA is filled with ACORN types in make work jobs like the US Post Office. Isn’t NASA unionized with SEIU union membership?


10 posted on 01/31/2010 10:22:09 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: sonofstrangelove
With NASA about to retire its ageing fleet of space shuttles, there is a pressing need for viable space transport.

However Buran is not the solution, not any more than making more Shuttles, for the same reason. Too many years passed, too many people retired, and the technology changed. You can't get electronic components any more to make a single little device for anything onboard. And if you decide to go ahead and redesign what you must, you might just as well make more Shuttles, at least that's the devil we know.

Anyway, chances of building more Burans or Shuttles are around zero. Fact is, nobody really needs such an expensive vehicle; back then, when the STS program was just starting, there was hope that it will fly often, be cheap, and the military will be on board. None of that happened, and we know why - because of initial optimism and because of lack of experience with reusable spacecraft.

And even if additional STS or Buran flights were available, where would they go to? The ISS is all set even after STS closes down. There are no plans for anything more spectacular (no Moon, no Mars, no Cuiper Belt.) Why to bother? Even if Russia will want to launch its own (or an international) interplanetary expedition a decade down the road, it will be done with a specialized spacecraft, perhaps built and fueled on LEO. Buran can't be of much use there; quite the opposite, if you have the Energia booster (which ought to lift about 100 tons) then you just send the parts and the fuel up, instead of also carrying the mass of the shuttle back and forth.

11 posted on 01/31/2010 10:30:54 PM PST by Greysard
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I agree. The technology on Buran is so outdated it would probably cost more money to bring it to flight status.


12 posted on 01/31/2010 10:32:44 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Soviet Buran:


13 posted on 01/31/2010 10:33:42 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Greysard
if you have the Energia booster (which ought to lift about 100 tons) then you just send the parts and the fuel up, instead of also carrying the mass of the shuttle back and forth.

I agree
14 posted on 01/31/2010 10:35:03 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Pavel Chekov would be so proud ...


15 posted on 01/31/2010 10:38:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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LOL


16 posted on 01/31/2010 10:39:54 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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I recall reading in an official report once, that the Space Shuttle was intended to be the space transport work-horse, making 50 trips a year, to make it profitable, and worthwhile.

Are you familiar with the same assertion?


17 posted on 01/31/2010 11:03:17 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Greysard

I am waiting to see what the Chinese do. I am sure they have plans, and I am sure whatever they plan is going to be lower tech than something we would do, but they will do something.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 11:55:55 PM PST by Ronin
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To: sonofstrangelove

This sounds comparable to taking a ‘52 Chevy from Havana and sending it on the Cannon-Ball Run.


19 posted on 01/31/2010 11:56:23 PM PST by gigster
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LOL


20 posted on 02/01/2010 12:40:22 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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