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To: chilltherats
All Roeder had was a lousy public defender and no opportunity to use his motive in his defense.

Roeder testified on his behalf. It didn't help that he repeatedly admitted to shooting Tiller, and that he'd gone to the church twice before to kill Tiller, but that he hadn't shown up. He did give his motives and his attorney repeated them during closing arguments. What the judge refused to allow was for the jury to consider manslaughter. It was either convict for murder or let him go.

279 posted on 01/29/2010 4:54:39 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Yada yada yada, I know all that. What I’m saying is where was the defense bar? Roeder had lousy representation. The public defender was poorly prepared and not forceful or dynamic in pressing the prosecution or the court. I doubt if his jury selection was any better. His representation was pathetic, perhaps by design.

But before all that, before Roeder even shot Tiller, the state and the people of KS failed miserably to do anything about Tiller. Kathleen Sibelius and her rat machine, elected by the people of KS, made sure Tiller wasn’t convicted during his trial. They set the stage for this. Now people here, people who abhor the control the State (meaning government as a whole) is trying to force upon us in Washington and in many state capitols, want to see the state put Roeder to death.

It sickens me to see conservatives speak with such stupidity and hypocrisy (I don’t mean you - I haven’t seen your other posts on this subject, if there are any, so I don’t know the fullness of your opinion, but I’ve seen some others that are beyond galling coming from so-called conservatives). I will give 100:1 odds that if some thugs kidnapped or threatened their loved one’s life - such as a terrorist or drug kidnappers - they would beat them to death if they didn’t tell where the family member was being kept and feel fully justified, even though others would argue that s/he didn’t have the right to take the law iinto their own hands blah blah blah. GMAFB.


286 posted on 01/29/2010 5:31:11 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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